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21 Apr, 7 tweets, 7 min read
@JonRonson9 @LastBehaviorist @SamHarrisOrg 1/ Yes, but none of us got a user manual at birth, so we have to see what emerges & try to communicate that in the words available at the applicable age. The research Sapolsky cited only had brain tissue of those dead by the late '70s, long before any were out as non-binary…
@JonRonson9 @LastBehaviorist @SamHarrisOrg 2/…so none were included, but the range of neuron numbers across the totality of subjects & controls suggests that people can be intermediate; this might account for those unsure until later & non-binary identities. Unfortunately, no other country has ever bothered to…
@JonRonson9 @LastBehaviorist @SamHarrisOrg 3/…collect carefully documented brains of trans people, & even 🇳🇱 stopped, due to the backlash, so there's no prospect of further replication. Very high-resolution MRI scans could now pick up the size difference, in the living, but no one seems to want to do such solid research.
@JonRonson9 @LastBehaviorist @SamHarrisOrg 4/ Since that research🖼️ it is now known that the BSTc is irreversibly gendered in the first months, if not before, by androgens (so hormones later in life could never have had an effect), but epigenetic (DNA but not genes) differences🖼️ or chemicals can block/mimic that
@JonRonson9 @LastBehaviorist @SamHarrisOrg 5/ This, & how trans adolescent's dysphoria increases with the natural hormones of puberty, & how trans people respond to "cross-sex" HRT, all fits the (almost universally accepted in mammalian research) Organisational-Activational Hypothesis of the action of "sex" hormones…
@JonRonson9 @LastBehaviorist @SamHarrisOrg 6/…in the brain proposed in 1959⬆️ which predicts not only reproductive responses (centred in the BSTc) & hormonal will be affected but also gendered/sexed parts of the nervous system as well as areas to which there are axonal extensions, all biological

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4 Apr
@ShapiroTattoo @christapeterso 1/ They're conflating gender dysphoria with suicidal ideation, trying to erase that GD is frustrated #GenderIncongruence. In the Bell case, they used GIDS' lousy study of their patients which found SI wasn't reduced on PBs (negating the 🇳🇱 finding it was) to say PBs didn't…
@ShapiroTattoo @christapeterso 2/…work, even though they are 100% effective at preventing further pubertal change. The 🇳🇱 did the main session on endocrine care in adolescence at @TheEndoSociety conference last week (no doubt to avoid heat on US providers) & were pushing the "reduces SI" line. I don't see…
@ShapiroTattoo @christapeterso @TheEndoSociety 3/…why PBs would do that directly. Perhaps the 🇳🇱 imagine its pubertal hormones directly induce depression rather than the changes they bring? I'd suggest they're in denial that their now long-outdated, prolonged PB period protocol they initiated in the '90s isn't what…
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18 Mar
@RozKaveney @ceemage Having been forcibly made aware of the possibility of/threatened, on my 3rd birthday, in 1950, with the rest of my life in an asylum, with daily ECT, "because that's what happens to people like you", I count from then, really. But comparisons are invidious & to be avoided.
@ceemage 1/ As my pinned tweet says, my mother was a nurse who had gone seeking an answer to my asking her some months before to find out if doctors had a way to make me grow up as a woman, & instead learned the official NHS "treatment path". So I believed her.
@ceemage 2/ I decided that such a fate was worse than death & within days planned what to do if I learned I was to be taken to the asylum. A simple & practical plan for a child that age living on the corner of a busy bus route. NHS psychiatrists have much for which to apologise.
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14 Mar
@JamesCantorPhD @georgie1801 @jack_turban Once again you do the ultimate transphobe thing of trying to link us to pedophilia. Why does anyone take you seriously, James?

You know your other "reasons" are lies.⬇️

None of that answers why you ignore that seriously inconvenient research.
@JamesCantorPhD @georgie1801 @jack_turban 2 / The Swaab et al research explicitly controlled for the effects of hormones, but besides, it is now known the BSTc is irreversibly gendered in the first months neonatally, & that it is normally due to the effects (or lack of effect) of androgen but at least one known…
@JamesCantorPhD @georgie1801 @jack_turban 3 / …genomic variation can reverse that, yet you still try to use "adult hormone usage" as a fake argument to dismiss the findings.

The research cannot be duplicated only because no one collects the brains of trans people to examine. No doubt MRI scans will soon be able…
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23 Jan
@mikeroscoe67 @NotRightRuth 1/ Completely untrue. What benefit is there for you in such lies?

The pressure was from medical ethics in the light of what became obvious after GIDS responded to the lead of their 🌍 medical peers & peer clinics.

In 2009 the veteran gender expert Prof Richard Green, recently…
@mikeroscoe67 @NotRightRuth 2/…retired head of the world's largest adult GIC - London's Charing Cross - was so disgusted🔗 at the psychoanalytically-based pediatric clinic, GIDS' stubborn refusal to prevent the harm he had seen to those arriving at adult clinics…
theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
@mikeroscoe67 @NotRightRuth 3/…by neglecting to provide "blockers" (GnRH agonists) other clinics had used for >20yrs(📽️1995) that he organised a conference of 🇺🇸🇳🇱🇧🇪🇩🇪🇬🇧 experts, patients & families on hormone treatment in adolescence with trans patients at @imperialcollege to…
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22 Jan
The official Biden White House text of 'Executive Order on Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation' signed during first hours after taking office⬇️
#SOGIE #lgbt #AffirmTransChildren
…more
whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/…

@NBCNews reports 'Biden to reverse transgender military ban imminently, White House says'⬇️
#LGBT #TransRightsAreHumanRights #Equality
…more
nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-ou…

@NBCNews reports the Biden #LGBTEquality executive order⬇️
#AffirmTransChildren #EqualRights
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18 Jan
@trans_mum @mimmymum @AlexSharpe64 And now it's the only reason for court involvement everywhere but 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, since the 🇦🇺 Family Court finally, 2yrs ago, revoked the last remnant of their ruling brought in with the help of GIDS' di Ceglie that every step be court authorised by re-enabling parental consent
@trans_mum @mimmymum @AlexSharpe64 Why didn't 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 pediatric gender clinic GIDS defend its adolescent patients' interests against their care being put under court control by citing 🇦🇺 jurisprudence revoking such control & allowing parental consent? Because GIDS wants to continue its denial of parental consent.
@trans_mum @mimmymum @AlexSharpe64 Why has 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 pediatric gender clinic GIDS denied its adolescent patients the right of their parents to consent, as in all other medical care? Because it enables GIDS to deny the 🌍 recommended provision of "blockers" as soon as puberty starts (possibly from 8yo in AFAB, 9 in AMAB) ImageImageImage
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