Something that has been on my mind recently, is that by arguing for a clinical need for PDA based on protecting certain autistic persons from reinforcement based approaches, actually establishes a clinical need for PDA in non-autistic persons too.
The reasons for this is simple. The SEND system is needs based, not diagnostic labels. So by (in their view) establishing PDA is needed for certain strategies, to prevent harm to certain individuals from reinforcement-based approaches...
... under the SEND system that reason would also be applicable to non-autistic persons with PDA. Which are in the academic literature. Remember Newson's cohort has non-autistic persons in it & she argued they all needed same strategies...
... Newson argued that reinforcement-based approaches do not work for her ENTIRE cohort, which included non-autistic persons with PDA in.

"Praise, reward, reproof, and punishment ineffective; behavioural approaches fail." (Newson et al, 2003, p597)...
... Bare in mind, there are sufficient examples in the PDA literature, that demonstrates PDA can be diagnosed as a standalone diagnostic entity...
researchgate.net/publication/35…
... arguments made by O'Nions and others that PDA is needed to protect persons from reinforcement based approaches are also equally applicable to non-autistic persons with PDA...
... So by making this arguments, the likes of O'Nions and others, are also establishing there is a need for PDA diagnosis for non-autistic persons within the UK SEND system...
... PDA has been diagnosed in non-autistic persons.
researchgate.net/publication/33…

The logical extension of this, is that by needlessly & fallaciously connecting PDA to autism, people should be discriminating against non-autistic persons with PDA.
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16 May
@KatyBenson20 It is hard to take much from significant swathes of PDA literature. I have learnt to not trust the accuracy or validity of much of what is said by certain "leading" experts on PDA.
@KatyBenson20 My reservations about the quality of much of what is said about PDA, means that the axiology behind my PDA research is different to much of that in currently in PDA literature. Basically, I am skepitcal of anything that assumes "PDA is an ASD".
@KatyBenson20 I can give many examples to justify my skepticism of certain experts scholarship.
Read 28 tweets
16 May
I guess this is a bunch of people for me to check COIs on over PDA.
pdasociety.org.uk/wp-content/upl…
And yes, I do think this is the standard being applied to PDA. There is no consensus over what it is, how to diagnose it. There multiple schools of thought, divergent behaviour profiles & diagnostic thresholds.
rationaldemandavoidance.com/2021/04/30/a-d…
If we are striving to raise standards of poor quality autism research, such as reporting of COIs, then it is applicable to PDA, considering its contested, controversial status.
Read 4 tweets
12 May
@realdoll03 There are many issues with it.

I think it never should have been included in autism to begin with. I think it is demonstrable nonsense, that is harmful and discriminatory to view PDA as an ASD. A huge issue, is a lack adequate engagement with Newson's work.
@realdoll03 I have seen many mental contortions to view PDA as an ASD. Like Pervasive Developmental Disorders are not practiced anymore only ASDs do. Issue there is that Newson's PDDs, are NOT the same as DSM-4 ones.
@realdoll03 PDA not conforming to DSM-4 PDDs understandings were not considered by the committee that set the DSM-5 autism criteria. How PDA has to be autism as it social communication issues and RRBIs.
Read 12 tweets
11 May
Reflecting how my journey on PDA, has gone from "rebranded autism" in 2017, next a pseudo syndrome resulting from interaction of autism & various comorbids. To it is a common Disorder.

Anyone want to take bets, I will view it as a rare autism subtype (joke)?
I should point, I can see why people think PDA is rebranded autism/ a pseudo syndrome resulting from interaction of autism and various comorbids.
I can see why people think PDA is a rare autism subtype. I think that outlook is not cogent, nor particularly scientific nor ethical. I can go into detail why I hold that view.
Read 64 tweets
9 May
In other news, I have realised I should probably add "Problematic Demand Avoidance" to list of names for PDA.

That I should call one clinic's PDA "Extreme Extreme Demand Avoidance" to accurately represent narrowness & seemingly absurdity of their position.
I have a list of 10 different PDA's name in print here:
researchgate.net/publication/33…
Screen shot of the list, as I forgot to include it before
Read 58 tweets
7 May
Reflecting on this blog post from three years ago:
rationaldemandavoidance.com/2018/04/08/win…
I still think PDA discourse needs to evolve include divergent perspectives, although, that now seems further from happening than ever. I mean, not even acknowledging valid critique etc.
rationaldemandavoidance.com/2021/04/30/a-d…
There seems to be little interest or motivation for "PDA is an ASD" supporters generally engaging with critique. I think what will happen is that similar studies to this occurring to PDA.
psyarxiv.com/zh64e/
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