@KatyBenson20 It is hard to take much from significant swathes of PDA literature. I have learnt to not trust the accuracy or validity of much of what is said by certain "leading" experts on PDA.
@KatyBenson20 My reservations about the quality of much of what is said about PDA, means that the axiology behind my PDA research is different to much of that in currently in PDA literature. Basically, I am skepitcal of anything that assumes "PDA is an ASD".
@KatyBenson20 I can give many examples to justify my skepticism of certain experts scholarship.
@KatyBenson20 About potential harm it can cause, most of it is linked to why PDA is controversial.
@KatyBenson20 Here is a list of reasons why PDA is controversial.
@KatyBenson20 •The “pathological” descriptor is demeaning and horrible. There is significant dislike of “pathological” descriptor and demand to change PDA’s name.
•PDA lacks consensus on what it is.
•There is no standardised diagnostic profile or validated tools.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA is not in either main diagnostic manuals.
•PDA risks undermining validity of clinical based language, as it involves an atypical approach to nosology.
@KatyBenson20 •Ignoring non-autistic persons with PDA and how clinical justifications for PDA are applicable to them.
•Prematurely forming a community of practice around outlook “PDA is an ASD”; generally missing/ ignoring valid critique of PDA.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA pathologises traits from accepted conditions and thus cannot be a Disorder. Personally, this should only matter to prevent PDA being accepted as something, it is more than e.g., A + B + C ≠ A.
@KatyBenson20 •Some features of PDA are hard to reliably measure.
@KatyBenson20 •Lack of cogent accounts and descriptions of PDA, e.g., missing/ ignoring non-autistic persons in research samples and still calling PDA an “autism profile”. Or deficits in “Pride/ Shame/ Social identity” causing panic attacks. ..
@KatyBenson20 ... These deficits are meant to allow a person to be highly motivated to avoid demands of “ordinary life” (non-autistic life), however now arguing demand avoidance is compulsive in nature (i.e, not by choice).
@KatyBenson20 •Arguing for this: “To build on developments, insights and increasing recognition of PDA but maintain the integrity of how the condition is understood and the nature of the support that is needed by individuals” (Christie, 2016; 2018; 2019)...
@KatyBenson20 ... With a lack of cogent descriptions and with undermining the integrity of autism, which itself has substantial greater evidence and consensus over what it is, compared to PDA...
@KatyBenson20 ... when PDA contains features of trauma, ADHD and other conditions. Particularly, concerning is associating trauma features with autism, considering legacy of issues of Refrigerator Mother with false FII claims with autism caregivers and autistic persons.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA is viewed as an ASD and is trying to divide autism despite many autistic persons not wanting autism to be subdivided, or in the diagnostic manuals. While PDA is primarily driven by non-autistic stakeholders.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA seems to pathologise a person’s self-agency & risks undermining a person’s human rights.
•Poor quality of much of PDA research, circular in nature, with generic features (no feature is PDA specific), or relying on snowball sampling/ caregiver reports
@KatyBenson20 •Signs of many vulnerable persons are supporting “PDA is an ASD” narrative.
•Lack of disclosure of Conflict of Interests.
@KatyBenson20 •Viewing PDA as an ASD and arguing some autistic persons should be protected from reinforcement-based approaches like ABA/ PBS, while leaving the rest of autistic population to potentially be exposed to ABA/ PBS.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA is a culturally based construct, to the UK
•PDA is potentially highly stigmatising and is potentially problematic for autistic persons to escape stigma of autism, as PDA stereotypes are opposite of autism. See the table.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA can adversely impact a person’s life chances, e.g. who would wish to employ someone who has a “pathological”/ “extreme” aversion to demands?
•PDA strategies replicate good practice and comparable strategies are widely practiced.
@KatyBenson20 •Comparable approaches to PDA strategies have been practiced for years with autistic persons, independently of any PDA construct. Traditional autism approaches do not work for many autistic persons.
@KatyBenson20 •PDA’s clinical need has been contested for over two decades.
•Lack of adequate engagement with Newson’s research.
@KatyBenson20 There are some more reasons why PDA is controversial now, than when I first created this list. It is a substantial amount. One should be able see the potential harm PDA can cause...
@KatyBenson20 ... For how PDA is mainly driven by non-autistic stakeholders and pushing to divide autism with PDA, contradicts how most autistic persons do not autism in the dx manuals or to be divided- likely undermine cohesion of autistic community & lobbying efforts etc
@KatyBenson20 I dread to think what can happen to vulnerable caregivers, if aspects of trauma become associated with autism due to PDA. Already a problem with false FFI claims on autistic caregivers.
@KatyBenson20 Likewise, I dread to think what would happen if only a small part of autistic population is becomes "safe" form PBS/ ABA due to a PDA dx.
@KatyBenson20 I can refer to literature to back up these controversial aspects of PDA.

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16 May
I guess this is a bunch of people for me to check COIs on over PDA.
pdasociety.org.uk/wp-content/upl…
And yes, I do think this is the standard being applied to PDA. There is no consensus over what it is, how to diagnose it. There multiple schools of thought, divergent behaviour profiles & diagnostic thresholds.
rationaldemandavoidance.com/2021/04/30/a-d…
If we are striving to raise standards of poor quality autism research, such as reporting of COIs, then it is applicable to PDA, considering its contested, controversial status.
Read 4 tweets
14 May
Something that has been on my mind recently, is that by arguing for a clinical need for PDA based on protecting certain autistic persons from reinforcement based approaches, actually establishes a clinical need for PDA in non-autistic persons too.
The reasons for this is simple. The SEND system is needs based, not diagnostic labels. So by (in their view) establishing PDA is needed for certain strategies, to prevent harm to certain individuals from reinforcement-based approaches...
... under the SEND system that reason would also be applicable to non-autistic persons with PDA. Which are in the academic literature. Remember Newson's cohort has non-autistic persons in it & she argued they all needed same strategies...
Read 9 tweets
12 May
@realdoll03 There are many issues with it.

I think it never should have been included in autism to begin with. I think it is demonstrable nonsense, that is harmful and discriminatory to view PDA as an ASD. A huge issue, is a lack adequate engagement with Newson's work.
@realdoll03 I have seen many mental contortions to view PDA as an ASD. Like Pervasive Developmental Disorders are not practiced anymore only ASDs do. Issue there is that Newson's PDDs, are NOT the same as DSM-4 ones.
@realdoll03 PDA not conforming to DSM-4 PDDs understandings were not considered by the committee that set the DSM-5 autism criteria. How PDA has to be autism as it social communication issues and RRBIs.
Read 12 tweets
11 May
Reflecting how my journey on PDA, has gone from "rebranded autism" in 2017, next a pseudo syndrome resulting from interaction of autism & various comorbids. To it is a common Disorder.

Anyone want to take bets, I will view it as a rare autism subtype (joke)?
I should point, I can see why people think PDA is rebranded autism/ a pseudo syndrome resulting from interaction of autism and various comorbids.
I can see why people think PDA is a rare autism subtype. I think that outlook is not cogent, nor particularly scientific nor ethical. I can go into detail why I hold that view.
Read 64 tweets
9 May
In other news, I have realised I should probably add "Problematic Demand Avoidance" to list of names for PDA.

That I should call one clinic's PDA "Extreme Extreme Demand Avoidance" to accurately represent narrowness & seemingly absurdity of their position.
I have a list of 10 different PDA's name in print here:
researchgate.net/publication/33…
Screen shot of the list, as I forgot to include it before
Read 58 tweets
7 May
Reflecting on this blog post from three years ago:
rationaldemandavoidance.com/2018/04/08/win…
I still think PDA discourse needs to evolve include divergent perspectives, although, that now seems further from happening than ever. I mean, not even acknowledging valid critique etc.
rationaldemandavoidance.com/2021/04/30/a-d…
There seems to be little interest or motivation for "PDA is an ASD" supporters generally engaging with critique. I think what will happen is that similar studies to this occurring to PDA.
psyarxiv.com/zh64e/
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