1/ 🧵Unethical and apparently uninsured experiments to remove isolation in schools.
Its ridiculous, and are they seriously considering continuing while B1.617.2 begins circulating whilst also removing masks?
#edutwitter
Its ridiculous, and are they seriously considering continuing while B1.617.2 begins circulating whilst also removing masks?
#edutwitter
https://twitter.com/neupresident/status/1393193825166888961
2/ Many questions have been raised regarding the ethics of these experiments, not only does it potentially increase risks but only those who skip isolation need to give consent
https://twitter.com/karamballes/status/1388269716096040961?s=19
3/ I know its in the link above, but @neupresident and @HoppySaul are right to be stunned by this.
Thank you @SafeEdForAll_UK for seeking and and sharing the FOI
Thank you @SafeEdForAll_UK for seeking and and sharing the FOI
4/Some of the answers to the FOI are interesting, there 2 other I want to pick out.
This answer claims studies show DCT could cut transmission and this was a key decision in the "balance of risks"
Love how even they use quotation marks
This answer claims studies show DCT could cut transmission and this was a key decision in the "balance of risks"
Love how even they use quotation marks
5/ However the study they cite at the start of the FOI is the SPI-M-O one I've previously covered.
The study says this could cut transmission IF take up of LFDs was very low and those who weren't previously taking LFD tests took up testing because of this
The study says this could cut transmission IF take up of LFDs was very low and those who weren't previously taking LFD tests took up testing because of this
https://twitter.com/karamballes/status/1385375794084597761?s=19
6/ So @SafeEdForAll_UK, relying on their own modelling, they need to have data on take up of LFD and should be monitoring take up. If they cant demonstrate an increase then the model itself says this will be less safe.
7/ Of course this still ignores the fact the model which wasn't originally designed for schools assumes 50% of identified close contacts fail to isolate.
Schools have 100% isolation, we don't let identified close contacts through the gates
Schools have 100% isolation, we don't let identified close contacts through the gates
https://twitter.com/karamballes/status/1385373447916765184?s=19
8/ The other answer from FOIs
PCRs are also taken, but this isn't ad a safety precaution, results aren't revealed for 2 weeks.
Why?
PCRs are for data collection, revealing results would alter the experiment and the DfE doesn't intend on using PCRs for back up.
PCRs are also taken, but this isn't ad a safety precaution, results aren't revealed for 2 weeks.
Why?
PCRs are for data collection, revealing results would alter the experiment and the DfE doesn't intend on using PCRs for back up.
9/ So if an asymptomatic close contact tests positive on a PCR, and the LFD doesn't pick it up, they will allow that person to go on public transport and into school to preserve the experiment.
This is the careful control that makes it legal and ethical 🤷♂️
This is the careful control that makes it legal and ethical 🤷♂️
10/ Carefully controlled...
11/ On the question of liability in general, its interesting the conversations at least one MAT is having with its heads.
inews.co.uk/news/coronavir…
inews.co.uk/news/coronavir…
12/ Been working with staff and parents in trials schools to challenge these experiments
If your involved in one of these schools @JamesCarr_93 of @SchoolsWeek and @Zubhaque of @IndependentSage have done a lot to draw attention to these trials
As has @dgurdasani1 @Dr2NisreenAlwan
If your involved in one of these schools @JamesCarr_93 of @SchoolsWeek and @Zubhaque of @IndependentSage have done a lot to draw attention to these trials
As has @dgurdasani1 @Dr2NisreenAlwan
13/ Several parents in these schools have felt so uncomfortable about these trials they contacted the heads, asking about consent and safety, in a mind to withdraw their children.
Think how families with an immune suppressed member must feel about their children being in these.
Think how families with an immune suppressed member must feel about their children being in these.
14/ After pushing until they get to speak to those running the trials, what reassurance are they getting?
1/2
1/2
15/ So the message is, we don't need to ask for your consent, if you don't like that then leave.
2/2
2/2
16/ Yet these trials continue while local directors of public health, including my own, are coming out to the spikes in cases are linked to schools (Over 40% of cases in my LA are from schools)
At the same time gov are writing letters to UfT regarding masks not being recommended
At the same time gov are writing letters to UfT regarding masks not being recommended
17/ UfT are particularly excited by this statement from gov.
Where is gov getting its epidemiological information from? Its not SAGE, they advise keeping masks in schools for now.
Where is gov getting its epidemiological information from? Its not SAGE, they advise keeping masks in schools for now.
18/ Also wondering about what evidence they are using on damage to wellbeing as they "balance risks"
I don't know what they are, but we do know the risks of long covid
@LongCovidKids
I don't know what they are, but we do know the risks of long covid
@LongCovidKids
https://twitter.com/Dr2NisreenAlwan/status/1393251988046073860?s=19
19/19
Whats really frustrating is how little the school trials have been raised in the media, for instance the nightclub experiments gained a lot of attention.
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Whats really frustrating is how little the school trials have been raised in the media, for instance the nightclub experiments gained a lot of attention.
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https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1393262075363856384?s=19
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