What I find so persuasive is the combination of a complete lack of nuance, the absence of any informed assessment of the risks and pitfalls of the “No more masks” policy, and the abundance of self-righteousness.
For real though, here are just a few issues you might have expected the founder of Persuasion to address if he wanted to make a serious effort to, you know, *persuade* people:
The fact that fully vaccinated people have a very low chance of getting sick, but it’s not zero, and more importantly, there’s a chance they might still spread the virus. Which is why many in the medical community are critical of the new guidelines and will continue to wear masks
Or the fact that it’s still unclear how long immunity lasts: It certainly wanes over time, meaning that people who got vaccinated early will, by the fall, likely still have good protection from getting sick, but also exhibit a higher likelihood to spread the virus than right now.
Or the fact that this policy is guaranteed to provide cover for a lot of unvaccinated people who just don’t want to wear masks anymore - resulting in a problematic situation in which no one is able to determine whether or not the unmasked are truly vaccinated.
Or the fact that health authorities in other countries have come to a different conclusion than the CDC (see the example of Germany below), maintaining that it is still important for the fully vaccinated to keep wearing masks indoors. tagesschau.de/inland/bundesr…
Or the fact that this kind of triumphalism rings hollow to parents of young children - are we supposed to say to the little ones: “Tough luck, you’re gonna have to wear a mask, but mommy and daddy do not. Deal with it!“
These are just some of the reasons why it’s absolutely reasonable for fully vaccinated people to come to the conclusion that the mask stays on, for now - but for Mounk, it’s all just “hygiene theater“ and ridiculous attempts to “show our altruism.“
It will never cease to amaze me how unwilling and/or unable the founder of a publication called “Persuasion“ is to actually engage with the position of people with whom he disagrees and who he ostensibly wants to *persuade* on a substantive, serious level.
This is such an important observation - and it points to a failure among some who categorically reject the idea of fascism in the present-day U.S. to adapt their analysis to the specific conditions of 21st century America.
There are many strands of the debate over whether or not what we’re seeing on the Trumpist / Far Right can adequately be described as “fascism.” Many of the prevailing arguments are based on a comparison to fascism’s rise in the European interwar period.
One prominent argument holds that fascism can only arise in response to the threat of a Far Left takeover that ultimately compels the Center-Right to make common cause with the fascists. This is indeed what enabled Mussolini and Hitler to take power.
Thread: On polarization, “consensus,” and multiracial democracy in American history.
I’m writing a book about the idea of “polarization” and how it has shaped recent American history. @JakeMGrumbach is making a crucial point here, and I’d like to add a few thoughts: 1/
First of all, @JakeMGrumbach is right: Political “consensus” was usually based on a bipartisan agreement to leave the discriminatory social order intact and deny marginalized groups equal representation and civil rights. A white male elite consensus was the historical norm. 2/
The frequently invoked “consensus” of the post-World War II era, for instance, was depending on both parties agreeing that white patriarchal rule would remain largely untouched. “Civility” was the modus operandi between elites who adhered to that order. 3/
As @ThePlumLineGS argues, the idea that Republicans are just scared of Trump is utterly unconvincing analytically, as it simply doesn’t explain their current actions - and, one might add, also ignores the longstanding anti-democratic impulses and tendencies on the Right.
The “cowardice” tale is useful, of course: It provides cover for Republicans (better a coward than a far-right extremist); and it allows the news media to cling to the conception of the GOP as a “normal” democratic party that is just dealing with an authoritarian insurrection.
Agreed. One dimension of this divide is that there is a type of self-proclaimed Very Serious Person - quite prevalent in all political camps - to whom warnings of authoritarianism smack of Trump-induced “alarmism,” of an unsophisticated fixation on Trump. The VSPs are wrong.
It’s true, of course, that a fixation on Trump can easily result in a misleading tale that portrays him as an aberration, separating him from longer-term trends and tendencies on the American Right.
Instead of dismissing Trump, however, the answer should be to focus on how dangerous those broader tendencies are, on how the same energies and anxieties that have animated the conservative movement for a long time fueled Trump’s rise.
Great reflection on the debate over Trump as a “fascist” and, more generally, the uses and abuses of the #fascism concept in the current political discourse. I’d like to add a few thoughts and observations: 1/
In a vacuum, I think it’s fair to argue that the term “fascism” is sometimes used a little too indiscriminately, and that the indiscriminate use of the term can obscure more than it illuminates. 2/
There’s nothing unique about this tendency to overuse the term “fascism,” of course: The way the term “socialism” is used in the political debate, for instance, obviously bears little resemblance to what historians of the left would recognize. 3/
From the perspective of a German who’s recently moved his family across the Atlantic, this is exactly what stands out about life in the United States, almost more than anything else.
I mean, I must have told my German mother at least twenty times how much we pay for childcare for our two boys - but every time we speak she asks again, because the number, while average for DC, is so beyond-the-pale crazy to German ears that it simply won’t register.
And healthcare... On New Year’s Eve 2019 our toddler fell, hurt his teeth, we had to go to the ER, in one of Germany’s best hospitals (University Hospital Freiburg), he was treated immediately - I received the bill four weeks later: 66 Euros. What would it have cost me over here?