#r4today Just had a one sided interview with someone from Joint Biosecurity on children being vaccinated "We don't want to immunise anyone who doesn't need it, think coverage will be high enough without vaccinating children"
UK gov currently has no plans for child vaccination
After listening to that interview, that wasn't balanced with an alternative view, its clear the government have no concerns with a large number of children being infected.
Still saying transmission isn't an issue in schools
What i can't believe is that once again UK take a policy stance that is at odds with most the works and there was no rigorous questioning from interviewer (@bbcnickrobinson I think)
Not even a mention that Israel and others have come to a completely different conclusion
Worth going onto BBC Sounds to listen, around 7am.
Its like we have gone full circle and are back to children have such a minimal impact on the pandemic we don't have to worry about transmission in schools.
Such a big policy statement, such little challenge.
I'm reminded of March last year when #r4today told us that pursuing herd immunity through infection was a more nuanced response than other countries who were locking down.
Government salesman, not journalism.
So while most countries have been preparing to vaccinate children, GBD signatories recently put out a paper calling for children to not be vaccinated, this seems to have had disproportionate influence on the debate
When anti vax push on children started it was clear the messaging about risks would be used by the anti vax movement, and we have certainly seen this pick up
In the same way antimaskers used schools to fight a proxy war, the anti vaxers are doing the same
UK pediatrics have fought against safety measures in schools including recently saying masks should go due to the balance of risks, I've not seen them provide the data and evidence to back up what the risks of mask use are and they also don't like talking about @LongCovidKids
So it's depressingly unsurprising that pediatrics seem to have embraced this "balance of harms" attitude to vaccination.
Once again we are back to questioning the secrecy of Joint Biosecurity. While we do get to see SAGE minutes, decision making is done in Joint Biosecurity which doesn't release information.
The gov need to explain why we are picking a different approach to most the world and this must be properly scrutinised, we've seen where lack of scrutiny leads.
Interesting how UsForThem are pushing the same line and talking to activists in Germany and other countries, the skeptic disinformation networks are all pushing the identical argument and it's ramped up across western world at the same time.
Looks like @Telegraph has made its decision, to side with HART on the anti vax message. This lot are close to the centre of the disinformation networks. For British press to give a platform to such an organisation is deeply concerning.
Failed to provide evidence for taking Greenwich to court
Refuses to release data on testing trials in schools
Won't release the impact of its stealth cut to budgets
Gove's FOI blocking unit is certainly doing its job
Here's the failure to answer FOIs on testing trials. Completely unacceptable, we need to see what is information the government is basing its decisions on.
Looking at the comments on Tobys site its almost like if you keep underplaying covid and hinting that there are alternative reasons for lockdown other than public health, you might encourage ppl to question vaccination.
Telling people there's minimal risks from covid, constantly claiming that we're just about at herd immunity is going to make people question why they need a vaccination
1/ Anyone notice a narrative forming today that there should be no delays to the roadmap because only people who haven't been bothered to get vaccinated are at risk?
"Anyone with common sense is already protected" several @lbc callers have said
2/ This has come with several statements
"Vaccines work just as well with B1.617.2"
"Higher transmissibility isn't an issue as there is no sign it has more severity or that younger age groups are impacted"
3/ I thought its been clear that we simply don't have enough data to know this yet. Seen reports on both sides
No suprise 2 voices are no are Dingwall and GBD Gupta.
Maajid Nawas also claimed as over 70% have antibodies we already have herd immunity
2/ Many questions have been raised regarding the ethics of these experiments, not only does it potentially increase risks but only those who skip isolation need to give consent
3/ I know its in the link above, but @neupresident and @HoppySaul are right to be stunned by this.
Thank you @SafeEdForAll_UK for seeking and and sharing the FOI
Scientist/Union/Parent: SAGE say masks should stay for now
Presenter: Cant keep wearing them for ever, if not now then when?
S/U/P: Couple of months?
P: What about balance of harms
SUP: What harms?
P:.er..learning..mental health?
SUP:Evidence?
Presenter: Now after dismissing SAGE advice, for balance I turn to a member of CRG/GBD/ or skeptic lobbyists group who have proliferated disinformation and opposed lockdowns and all safety measures in schools throughout,while also dismissing long covid in children and staff.
1/ 🧵 Arguments about data, confidentiality, consent and masks.
Interesting couple of days.
Data on VOC were released later than usual, B1.617.2 outbreaks are occuring in education settings as government seems set on removing masks
2/ There has been a lot of disinformation in the press about masks in schools, including promoting a court case that was found to be fundamentally flawed as the judge explained masks are encouraged but not mandated.
3/ This led to pro government media putting out headlines like "Johnson defies unions" ignoring the fact SAGE are advising for masks to be kept for now.
Certain media voices have been promoting the harms of masks for many months,it encourages the online abuse we recieve.