1/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Generally Silent & Ably Disabled hashtags will come regularly. It’s a big jigsaw puzzle when pieced together get simple answers to complex questions.
This thread is matter-of-fact thread that gives what is already there in public domain.
Generally Silent & Ably Disabled hashtags will come regularly. It’s a big jigsaw puzzle when pieced together get simple answers to complex questions.
This thread is matter-of-fact thread that gives what is already there in public domain.
2/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
It’s about Armed Forces Tribunal. AFT is under Ministry of Defence. All other tribunals in India are under Ministry of Law and Justice.
In India we, by tradition, bend from waist to the boss’. Boss of AFT is Ministry of Defence.
It’s about Armed Forces Tribunal. AFT is under Ministry of Defence. All other tribunals in India are under Ministry of Law and Justice.
In India we, by tradition, bend from waist to the boss’. Boss of AFT is Ministry of Defence.
3/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
100% Disability Pension cases BY ORDER can only be brought to AFT. Courts can be approached challenging AFT judgements.
Hence, I asked on Twitter five questions. Those who actually know were ‘Generally Silent’. I had only one response.
100% Disability Pension cases BY ORDER can only be brought to AFT. Courts can be approached challenging AFT judgements.
Hence, I asked on Twitter five questions. Those who actually know were ‘Generally Silent’. I had only one response.
4/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Here are the five questions and answers relating to AFT.
Q1. How many Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) Benches are there in India?
There are 22 Benches of AFT spread all over the country.
Here are the five questions and answers relating to AFT.
Q1. How many Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) Benches are there in India?
There are 22 Benches of AFT spread all over the country.
5/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q2. What is composition of these benches?
A Bench comprises of a Judicial Member who is Retired/Ex High Court or Supreme Court judge and one Administrative Member who is supposed to be an Officer of the rank of Retired Lt General or ....
Q2. What is composition of these benches?
A Bench comprises of a Judicial Member who is Retired/Ex High Court or Supreme Court judge and one Administrative Member who is supposed to be an Officer of the rank of Retired Lt General or ....
6/n 5/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
......Q2. What is composition of these benches?
......Retired Lt General or Retired Maj General and above and it's equivalents from Air Force and Navy.
......Q2. What is composition of these benches?
......Retired Lt General or Retired Maj General and above and it's equivalents from Air Force and Navy.
7/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q3. AFT is controlled by which ministry?
AFTs are controlled by Ministry of Defence.
The Judicial Member is nominated by Ministry of Law and Justice.
The Administrative Member is nominated by Ministry of Defence.
Q3. AFT is controlled by which ministry?
AFTs are controlled by Ministry of Defence.
The Judicial Member is nominated by Ministry of Law and Justice.
The Administrative Member is nominated by Ministry of Defence.
8/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q4. What does ‘Bench’ comprise of?
A Bench has just TWO members. Both need to be present to dispose a case. It is deemed non functional if one member is absent. It has supporting staff, office staff, vehicles, clerks, computers etc.
Q4. What does ‘Bench’ comprise of?
A Bench has just TWO members. Both need to be present to dispose a case. It is deemed non functional if one member is absent. It has supporting staff, office staff, vehicles, clerks, computers etc.
9/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q5. Does the Bench get paid for services?
The Members of the Benches are entitled the same pay, privileges & perks as are being enjoyed by any High Court Judge. This converts to Rs 2 lac per month or more PLUS perks almost of same amount.
Q5. Does the Bench get paid for services?
The Members of the Benches are entitled the same pay, privileges & perks as are being enjoyed by any High Court Judge. This converts to Rs 2 lac per month or more PLUS perks almost of same amount.
10/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q5. Does the Bench get paid for services?
...... of same amount. Pension of previous service is given as per orders.
6.Can a veteran go to court directly?
There is no bar on any Veteran approaching the Court directly except for....
Q5. Does the Bench get paid for services?
...... of same amount. Pension of previous service is given as per orders.
6.Can a veteran go to court directly?
There is no bar on any Veteran approaching the Court directly except for....
11/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q6. Can a veteran go to court directly?
...... except for in Disability Pension cases. So in effect 100% disability pension cases land in AFTs based on orders from Ministry of Defence.
So what is the cost of maintaining an AFT?
Q6. Can a veteran go to court directly?
...... except for in Disability Pension cases. So in effect 100% disability pension cases land in AFTs based on orders from Ministry of Defence.
So what is the cost of maintaining an AFT?
12/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Assuming salaries, perks, staff, overhead expenses at a conservative 10-15 lacs per Bench, a whopping Rs 1.2 Cr to Rs 1.8Cr per month or Rs 15-20 Cr/URLs are spent JUST to maintain AFTs. This goes out of Defence Budget.
Assuming salaries, perks, staff, overhead expenses at a conservative 10-15 lacs per Bench, a whopping Rs 1.2 Cr to Rs 1.8Cr per month or Rs 15-20 Cr/URLs are spent JUST to maintain AFTs. This goes out of Defence Budget.
13/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Case or no case, this expenditure takes place each month. This goes out of Defence Budget.
The stage is now set for TEN more questions. WANT IT? Watch this thread. Veterans must follow the thread. Wait for next set of questions.
Case or no case, this expenditure takes place each month. This goes out of Defence Budget.
The stage is now set for TEN more questions. WANT IT? Watch this thread. Veterans must follow the thread. Wait for next set of questions.
14/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Thirteen tweets so far and I hope I have not put 'INDIAN ARMY KI IZZAT KHATRE MEIN"? Check if I am writing anything objectionable against Indian Army @adgpi There is nothing so far. Veterans on twitter ok so far?
Thirteen tweets so far and I hope I have not put 'INDIAN ARMY KI IZZAT KHATRE MEIN"? Check if I am writing anything objectionable against Indian Army @adgpi There is nothing so far. Veterans on twitter ok so far?
15/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
The first 13 tweets handled these 6 questions:
Q1. How many Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) Benches are there in India?
Q2.What is composition of these benches?
Q3.AFT is controlled by which ministry?
Q4.What does ‘Bench’ comprise of?
The first 13 tweets handled these 6 questions:
Q1. How many Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) Benches are there in India?
Q2.What is composition of these benches?
Q3.AFT is controlled by which ministry?
Q4.What does ‘Bench’ comprise of?
16/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q5.Does the Bench get paid for services?
Q6.Can a veteran go to court directly?
I am sure I am not offending the SERVING. Right?
Now the next set of questions
Q5.Does the Bench get paid for services?
Q6.Can a veteran go to court directly?
I am sure I am not offending the SERVING. Right?
Now the next set of questions
17/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
VETERANS, Please answer these questions now. Tomorrow is Sunday, lot of time to answer.
Q7. Are all 22 AFT Benches operating as on today? If not why?
Q8. Are 22 Judicial Members posted to these 22 AFTs as on date?
VETERANS, Please answer these questions now. Tomorrow is Sunday, lot of time to answer.
Q7. Are all 22 AFT Benches operating as on today? If not why?
Q8. Are 22 Judicial Members posted to these 22 AFTs as on date?
18/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q9. Are 22 Administrative Members posted to these 22 AFTs as on date?
Q10. What about the overhead expenditures, salaries etc for the benches not working as on today?
Q11. If benches are not functioning, what are people today?
Q9. Are 22 Administrative Members posted to these 22 AFTs as on date?
Q10. What about the overhead expenditures, salaries etc for the benches not working as on today?
Q11. If benches are not functioning, what are people today?
19/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q12. Of the 22 Benches, how many are functional today and what is their location?
Q13. What happens to the cases of the balance non-functional cases? Where do soldiers having disability pension grievances go?
Q12. Of the 22 Benches, how many are functional today and what is their location?
Q13. What happens to the cases of the balance non-functional cases? Where do soldiers having disability pension grievances go?
20/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q14. How many cases are pending in each of these ‘functional’ AFTs?
Q15. Can a veteran file his grievance directly in AFT and plead the case himself?
Q16. Can a jawan be represented by a lawyer?
Q14. How many cases are pending in each of these ‘functional’ AFTs?
Q15. Can a veteran file his grievance directly in AFT and plead the case himself?
Q16. Can a jawan be represented by a lawyer?
21/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q17. Does a lawyer need to have a special permission to plead cases in AFT?
Q18. Are services of lawyers provided free by AFT?
Is Army involved anywhere? So far we are talking of AFTs under MoD with Retd Judge & retired Lt/Maj Gen
Q17. Does a lawyer need to have a special permission to plead cases in AFT?
Q18. Are services of lawyers provided free by AFT?
Is Army involved anywhere? So far we are talking of AFTs under MoD with Retd Judge & retired Lt/Maj Gen
22/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
13 questions that will give you an idea of the 'SYSTEM'. Disability Pension case is yet to reach the AFT. I have just asked questions that give us the organisation.
The first case will come soon.
Good night.
13 questions that will give you an idea of the 'SYSTEM'. Disability Pension case is yet to reach the AFT. I have just asked questions that give us the organisation.
The first case will come soon.
Good night.
23/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
As expected there are no answers to my questions even after 24 hours. There is no trolling calling me ANTI INDIAN ARMY. Why? Reason is simple. It is the individuals who cheat the system & later take cover of Army. Army is SICK of CHEATS.
As expected there are no answers to my questions even after 24 hours. There is no trolling calling me ANTI INDIAN ARMY. Why? Reason is simple. It is the individuals who cheat the system & later take cover of Army. Army is SICK of CHEATS.
24/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
You MUST read this thread and tag it to PMO, RM and FM. This loot must stop. I had asked 11 questions. Here are the answers. The question numbers are in continuity.
You MUST read this thread and tag it to PMO, RM and FM. This loot must stop. I had asked 11 questions. Here are the answers. The question numbers are in continuity.
25/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q7. Are all 17 AFT Benches operating as on today? If not why?
With a sanction of 17 benches in 11 locations across India, the AFT currently operates with just 4 benches in 3 locations.
Judicial and Administrative Members are not posted.
Q7. Are all 17 AFT Benches operating as on today? If not why?
With a sanction of 17 benches in 11 locations across India, the AFT currently operates with just 4 benches in 3 locations.
Judicial and Administrative Members are not posted.
26/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q8. Are 17 Judicial Members posted to these 17 AFTs as on date?
No. Only FOUR Judicial Members are posted, and THIRTEEN BENCHES ARE NON FUNCTIONAL since there are no Judicial Members.
Q8. Are 17 Judicial Members posted to these 17 AFTs as on date?
No. Only FOUR Judicial Members are posted, and THIRTEEN BENCHES ARE NON FUNCTIONAL since there are no Judicial Members.
27/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q9. Are 17 Administrative Members posted to these 17 AFTs as on date? What about the overhead expenditures?
No. Only SEVEN Administrative Members are posted.
Expenditure on benches is recurring.
Q9. Are 17 Administrative Members posted to these 17 AFTs as on date? What about the overhead expenditures?
No. Only SEVEN Administrative Members are posted.
Expenditure on benches is recurring.
28/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q10. If benches are not functioning, what are the people doing as on date?
They draw salary with no work to do.
Q11. Of the 17 Benches, how many are functional today & what is their location?
Two in Delhi, one each in Lucknow & Chd.
Q10. If benches are not functioning, what are the people doing as on date?
They draw salary with no work to do.
Q11. Of the 17 Benches, how many are functional today & what is their location?
Two in Delhi, one each in Lucknow & Chd.
29/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q12. What happens to the cases of the balance non-functional benches? Where do soldiers go?
No clarity however anyone can file case in the Principal Bench of AFT which is in Delhi. 99% cases pertain to Jawans and JCOs.
Q12. What happens to the cases of the balance non-functional benches? Where do soldiers go?
No clarity however anyone can file case in the Principal Bench of AFT which is in Delhi. 99% cases pertain to Jawans and JCOs.
30/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q13. How many cases are pending in each of these ‘functional’ AFTs?
theprint.in/judiciary/arme…
19000 cases are pending with AFTs.
Q13. How many cases are pending in each of these ‘functional’ AFTs?
theprint.in/judiciary/arme…
19000 cases are pending with AFTs.
31/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q14. Can a veteran file his grievance directly in AFT and plead the case himself?
No. The case has to be presented by an advocate/lawyer.
Q15. Can a jawan be represented by a lawyer?
No choice. A lawyer represents a soldier in AFT.
Q14. Can a veteran file his grievance directly in AFT and plead the case himself?
No. The case has to be presented by an advocate/lawyer.
Q15. Can a jawan be represented by a lawyer?
No choice. A lawyer represents a soldier in AFT.
32/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q16. Does a lawyer need to have a special permission to plead cases in AFT?
These lawyers are required to be registered with Bar Association of AFT.
Q16. Does a lawyer need to have a special permission to plead cases in AFT?
These lawyers are required to be registered with Bar Association of AFT.
33/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled
Q17. Are services of lawyers provided free by AFT?
No service is provided for free. A JCO/Jawan pays Rs 50,000/- to Rs 1,00,000/- to a lawyer where as an officer pays between Rs 2,00,000/- to 2,50,000/- for their respective cases.
Q17. Are services of lawyers provided free by AFT?
No service is provided for free. A JCO/Jawan pays Rs 50,000/- to Rs 1,00,000/- to a lawyer where as an officer pays between Rs 2,00,000/- to 2,50,000/- for their respective cases.
34/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled #DisabilityPensionIndustry
DISABILITY PENSION INDUSTRY.
Why the 'system' will not let the 'Disability Pension' to be granted without challenging?
Its an INDUSTRY. @PMOIndia @rajnathsingh @nsitharaman
DISABILITY PENSION INDUSTRY.
Why the 'system' will not let the 'Disability Pension' to be granted without challenging?
Its an INDUSTRY. @PMOIndia @rajnathsingh @nsitharaman
35/n #AFT #GenerallySilent #AblyDisabled #DisabilityPensionIndustry
We will start from this story already in public domain. The man who presided over Disability Pension in Army, wanted to be on Armed Forces Tribunal after retirement. This is a good start.
theprint.in/defence/commen…
We will start from this story already in public domain. The man who presided over Disability Pension in Army, wanted to be on Armed Forces Tribunal after retirement. This is a good start.
theprint.in/defence/commen…
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