Not from Mongolia,rather from in & around Uzbekistan.

They descended from Timur who was bi-product of an Islamized+Iranized society & not steppe nomadic.

Interestingly both Timur(1336-1405)&Genghis(1155-1227) had common ancestor Tumanay Khan(1080-1130).

Origin = Mongolic.
We see phenomenon of Turco-Mongol culture rose among the ruling elites of the Golden Horde & the Chagatai Khanate.

The Golden Horde was originally a Mongol, later Turkicized khanate established in the 13th cen. It rose as the northwestern sector of the Mongol Empire.
As the Mongol Empire fragmented post 1259 AD, it turned out to be recognized as separate khanate.

It also came to be known as Ulus of Jochi or Kipchak Khanate.

Batu Khan was founder of Golden Horde.

Their extent in 1300 AD
Chagatai Khanate too was Mongol which later became a Turkicized khanate. It comprised of the lands ruled by Chagatai Khan.

He was the second son of Genghis Khan.

Their extent in 1300 AD.
They were at best in the late 13th century. This khanate extended from the Amu Darya (south of the Aral Sea) to the Altai Mountains (border of current Mongolia and China).

One can say that it was spread exactly as Qara Khitai Empire (1124-1218 AD).
One needs to note that to begin with, the leaders of the Chagatai Khanate considered the Great Khan (of whole Monghol Empire) as supreme.

But things changed with Kublai Khan (Reign:1260-94) & Ghiyas-ud-din Baraq (Reign:1266-71)
They have began to disobey the great Khan.

The tide had began to turn.

By the mid-14th century, the Chagatais lose Transoxania to the Timurids.
Once a large extent of control, they were reduced to smaller extent known as Moghulistan (Map of 1490 in image).

This again lasted only until the late 15th century.

It broke into Yarkent Khanate and Turpan Khanate.
Let's come to Timurid Empire that reduced them & to whom Babur's considered to be successor of.

The empire was founded by Timur in 1370 AD. He was a warlord of Turco-Mongol lineage (check image).

He vision was clear.
He saw himself as the great restorer of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.

He regarded himself as Genghis's heir, and associated much with the Borjigin.

This is the empire under Timur.
Through the lineage of his father Qarachar Noyan, Timur claimed to be a descendant of Tumanay Khan, who was ancestor of Genghis Khan too.

Qarachar Noyan was a minister for Genghis & later assisted his son Chagatai as the governor of Transoxiana.
Well we have very less sources for Qarachar.

According to the "The Secret History of the Mongols" & his father, Suqu Sechen had attended the assembly wherein Genghis Khan was proclaimed as the ruler of Mongols in 1190 AD.
He belonged to Mongol tribe called, Barlas.

Both Qarachar and his father had come as delegation representing the Barlas tribe during the proclamation assembly of Genghis.
The same book "the Secret History of the Mongols", mentions that the Barlas shared ancestry with the Borjigin.

They were the imperial clan of Genghis Khan and his successors, and other Mongol clans.
The leading clan of the Barlas did see their origin to Qarachar Barlas.

Qarachar Barlas descended from Mongol warlord Bodonchir ( a direct ancestor of Genghis Khan).
The Barlas controlled the modern regions of Shahrisabz & Uzbekistan. Their lineage was certainly all about this region.

Unlike other neighboring nomadic tribes, Barlas were mostly concentrated to the very region.
With time, they had extensive contacts with the native Central Asia population.

Islam became the religion, came the Chagatai language (a Turkic language of the Qarluq branch), heavily influenced by Arabic and Persian.
Timur ruled over current Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Iran, Anatolia, almost the entire rest of the Caucasus, Afghanistan, much of Central Asia, parts of current Pakistan & Mesopotamia.

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