Varna is based on "Karma".
It can be from past or this life.
Our timescale is way different than west.
Hence it is most futile to debate on whether Varna is by birth or not. The moment you do so, you have to understand "Quasi Cyclic Time."
Death isn't full stop for us.
It can be from past or this life.
Our timescale is way different than west.
Hence it is most futile to debate on whether Varna is by birth or not. The moment you do so, you have to understand "Quasi Cyclic Time."
Death isn't full stop for us.
"Birth" & "Death" become significant factor in "Linear Time" not in "Quasi Cyclic." They are the two ends for "Linear Time."
In "Quasi Cyclic Time", they are just a node on cycle.
The process of interchange of Varna can keep occurring based on the action.
In "Quasi Cyclic Time", they are just a node on cycle.
The process of interchange of Varna can keep occurring based on the action.
That action can occur anywhere and result too can occur anywhere. It may be before or after multiple nodes of death & birth.
In fact, Varna interchange too might happen multiple within a single cycle of "death & birth."
In fact, Varna interchange too might happen multiple within a single cycle of "death & birth."
Wherein every interchange of Varna too can be perceived as a new "birth" & death.
It is not necessary to see birth only as a biological process as known. Birth can be various kinds so can be the death.
It is not necessary to see birth only as a biological process as known. Birth can be various kinds so can be the death.
When we try to interpret the Shastras for logic around "Varna", then it is effected by non-intelligence about "Time".
Most of the interpretations and discussions are based on "Linear Time." Less emphasis is laid on "Quasi Cyclic Time".
Most of the interpretations and discussions are based on "Linear Time." Less emphasis is laid on "Quasi Cyclic Time".
The moment one removes this Abrahmic-Western Lens of "Linear Time", they will find this debate around, if "Varna" is by "Birth" or not will seem to be most futile.
Absolute wastage of time. In the grandness of philosophy that talks of "Kalchakra", this fight is pettiest.
Absolute wastage of time. In the grandness of philosophy that talks of "Kalchakra", this fight is pettiest.
You are too keen to talk about "birth" & "death" as parameter about "Varna".
But how sure are you that you have interpreted the word "Birth" & "Death" really as our Acharyas meant to write?
But how sure are you that you have interpreted the word "Birth" & "Death" really as our Acharyas meant to write?
Many have missed the moot point.
You have to first define "Janma" & "Mrityu". If it is defined as western "Birth" & "Death", you confirm to the "linear time" & just take away the USP of Dharmik Values, which lies in "Quasi Cyclic Time".
You have to first define "Janma" & "Mrityu". If it is defined as western "Birth" & "Death", you confirm to the "linear time" & just take away the USP of Dharmik Values, which lies in "Quasi Cyclic Time".
Bound to happen, when you don't understand a single "term" but want to respond.
What does "Varna" mean?
You exist as a man or female, so it this gender difference, a discrimination? Is a kid getting "PCM" stream for better cut-off a discrimination?
What does "Varna" mean?
You exist as a man or female, so it this gender difference, a discrimination? Is a kid getting "PCM" stream for better cut-off a discrimination?
https://twitter.com/OddieBirdie/status/1414547591606329345?s=20
Ok! Well, you chucked first question. That’s fine, now please answer what is a “Janeu”!
Maybe you can use word “Jati” or “Varna”. We aren’t European, hence “Caste” doesn’t apply!
How beautiful it is to see abuse in each of your tweet but no answer ₹ clarity!
Maybe you can use word “Jati” or “Varna”. We aren’t European, hence “Caste” doesn’t apply!
How beautiful it is to see abuse in each of your tweet but no answer ₹ clarity!
https://twitter.com/OddieBirdie/status/1414552360311877638
Heard that you are professor or something!
But fail to even understand a basic thread.
This thread has assimilated diverse opinion about “Varna” just by using the most unique feature of Hindus: Quasi Cyclic Time!
But fail to even understand a basic thread.
This thread has assimilated diverse opinion about “Varna” just by using the most unique feature of Hindus: Quasi Cyclic Time!
https://twitter.com/jaiminism/status/1414552578688311305
Again chucked the 2nd qn too.
No answer what does “Varna” & “Janeu” mean!
If surname is discrimination, why study genetics? Why study peopling in world?
Btw, if you are so much against caste discrimination, why not vouch against reservation based on it, & bring on economy?
No answer what does “Varna” & “Janeu” mean!
If surname is discrimination, why study genetics? Why study peopling in world?
Btw, if you are so much against caste discrimination, why not vouch against reservation based on it, & bring on economy?
https://twitter.com/OddieBirdie/status/1414555604421545986
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