A new thread on Curveball and how he was eventually exposed as a fabricator.
In theory, source validation (as even FBI James Baker claimed) attempts to validate whether source was in location of supposed meeting or made alleged telephone call, or, as here, presence at accident
2/ a few analysts were suspicious of Curveball prior to Powell's notorious speech to UN and subsequent Iraq invastion, but suspicions ignored. After invasion, none of the project designers named by Curveball knew who he was, contradicting narrative that Curveball part of program
3/ in Sept 2003, inconsistencies began to accumulate. Curveball had claimed to be part of bioweapon program that began in 1995, but it turned out that Curveball had been fired in 1995 and could not have been part of any supposed program.
4/ Curveball's family also reported that he had been out of Iraq for long periods from 1995 to 1998, when he was supposedly working on bioweapons in Iraq. And, watch carefully: he was "not even in Iraq" when 1998 bioweapon accident occurred, "confirmed by travel records".
5/ this is the SAME incident that had been the subject of the original May 2000 Curveball evaluation. The proof ended up being something as mundane as travel records. (If Curveball traveled to Europe, presumably European travel records would have shown this.)
6/ at first, analysts at WINPAC who had been primary Curveball supporters and CIA management found it hard to believe that Curveball had fabricated everything, but by January 2004, after CIA obtained travel records, "most analysts became convinced that Curveball had fabricated"
7/ Tenet was briefed on fabrication concerns on Curveball almost immediately, but CIA middle management reluctant to retreat for both bad reasons (how it would look) and an OK reason for delay (concern that further evidence might vindicate)
8/ in March 2004, CIA finally got access to Curveball - an event comparable to FBI interview of Danchenko on Jan 24, 2017. But watch how two narratives diverge.
Curveball was unable to explain discrepancies, in particular over detail where facts known (wall noticed years earlier)
9/ brought face to face with reality, CIA immediately assessed that Curveball had fabricated reporting. CIA and DIA decisively and immediately "recalled all" reporting based on Curveball.
10/ as bad as the Curveball incident was, the Steele-Danchenko incident was much worse. On January 24, 2017, the FBI had much more and more convincing evidence that Danchenko-Steele had fabricated, but, instead of issuing recall notice, they concealed the evidence of fabrication.
11/ in March 2017, instead of telling Congress and the new administration, that Steele dossier was a fabrication and announcing recall of components of ICA that relied on it, Comey announced existence of collusion investigation into Trump campaign.
12/ it was not until Horowitz Report in December 2019 (Horowitz having re-discovered buried documents on Danchenko) that it was revealed that FBI had interviewed Steele's PSS and full dimensions of fraud began to unravel.
13/ Barr - and even Gonna Graham - both publicly recognized the significance of the January 2017 PSS revelations, with Barr, in particular, stating that that was point at which FBI appeared to him to have gone seriously awry - a point on which I agree.
14/ during 2020, a few documents dribbled out - most notably the memorandum on Danchenko interview that FBI buried. But, for the most part, FBI and DOJ continued to stonewall transparency in (successful) attempt to run out the clock in hopes of Trump election defeat.
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@BarryMeier@tafrank@praddenkeefe@HansMahncke@FOOL_NELSON@walkafyre 2/ examine original documents. We do not shrug when documents are redacted, but, using deep knowledge of the subject matter and ingenuity, interpolate and interpret the documents so that their story is revealed and not concealed.
@BarryMeier@tafrank@praddenkeefe@HansMahncke@FOOL_NELSON@walkafyre 3/ instead of advocating for secrecy and suppression of documents and concealing identity of fabricators like Danchenko and Steele, we believe in transparency and cleansing power of sunshine. Definitely not NYT "journalism", which whinged about identification of Danchenko
the report of the WMD Commission in March 2005 is important to read (or re-read) in light of our present knowledge that Danchenko/Steele fabricated Steele dossier. fas.org/irp/offdocs/wm…
2/ perhaps their most important concern was that CIA intelligence officials "failed to convey to policymakers new information casting serious doubt on the reliability of a human intelligence
source known as Curveball", whose information was relied on in intel assessment.
3/ the WMD Commission regretted that "once again", the intel community "failed to give policymakers a full understanding of the frailties of the intelligence on which they were relying."
one of the big mistakes by everyone in connection with Steele dossier is to think in terms of LeCarre's Cold War epics, when the reality is LeCarre's Tailor of Panama. Read this excerpt.
2/ Danchenko corresponds to Harry, the Tailor of Panama, who is recruited by Osnard, an ambitious and greedy idiot in UK spy agency. Harry needed money. Like Danchenko. Harry had no sources, so he made them up. Transforming nobodies into "sources", then making up stories.
3/ the plot line of Tailor of Panama is a re-make of Graham Greene's 1959 novella Our Man in Havana, another "spy" recruited by UK spy agency who had no sources, so he made everything up.
@KeillerDon I looked at the 700 million year ago Snowball Earth theory about 15 years ago and it seemed very sketchy to me. Some Canadian geologists (who are very experienced in glacial geology) argued that formations more likely to be flood related than glacier related.
@KeillerDon 2/ a key proponent of Snowball Earth theory was Mann's friend, Richard Alley. I didn't try to parse relative merits of two theories, but, if I had to choose, would pick the Canadian geologists. If geological formations can be explained without glaciers,
@KeillerDon 3/ then physics problem of trying to explain entry into and exit from Proterozoic Snowball Earth become moot.
remember Mueller's famous "not in my purview" answers re Steele dossier (among others)?
Extraordinary to re-read transcripts of stonewalling in 2017 and 2018 where DOJ/RBI lawyers prevented witness questioning on Steele dossier because it was under investigation by Mueller
2/ here's one example (Many others.) Trisha Anderson (FBI deputy general counsel) attended "meetings with McCabe" about Steele reports and what FBI had "learned about facts
that might bear on his credibility as a source".
3/ one of the three FBI lawyers from Office of General Counsel stopped Anderson from answering, first to consult, then to refuse because "questions pertain to matters that are being looked at by the special counsel". (Side question: Why cloak senior FBI lawyers in redactions?)
The recent decision pointed to a split in circuit courts on broadness of Computer Fraud Act.
3/ in my 2019 commentary on Manning and Assange cases, I had noted that the same inconsistency between circuit courts was critical to Assange extradition: