Lots of confusion about what Provincetown outbreak & CDC guidance mean

Mainly: how to think about spread among the vaccinated

And as importantly, what we know and what we don't

So a short thread
First, the P-town outbreak unusual

Many thousands of people (some unvaccinated) showed up to celebrate July 4

Leading to packed bars, clubs, and lots of mixing of vaccinated and unvaccinated folks in tight quarters

Ideal conditions for COVID spread

And COVID did spread

2/n
And there were a lot of infections, including among vaccinated folks

We've seen this before -- Singapore airport, Yankees clubhouse

Key issue is: did vaccines fail to

1. Prevent infection?
2. Prevent spread?
3. Prevent severe illness?
1. Did vaccines prevent infections?

Based on CDC's estimate, Pfizer/Moderna prevent about 75-85% of symptomatic infections from Delta

So if no one had been vaccinated, initial case loads would have been about 5 times higher

4/n
2. Did vaccines prevent spread among the infected?

Don't know

Study examined Ct values of symptomatic vaccinated and unvaccinated

Ct values were comparable

Driving news headlines

But single set of Ct values only loosely correlated with transmissibility

So we don't know
Did vaccines prevent severe illness?

Only 4 fully vaccinated folks ended up in hospital

None died

Those are very low rates

Consistent with theme that vaccines prevent severe illness

So yeah, they seem like they did
So what do we not know?

Because Ct values are rough surrogate of transmissibility

We don't know if actual spread among vaccinated people compare to unvaccinated

And big one: we don't know if vaccinated asymptomatic folks spread

This is key for mask guidance

5/6
Bottom line?

P-town outbreak would've been a nightmare if no one was vaccinated

Initial case #s would have been 5X

And past experience says such outbreaks fuel larger regional outbreaks

Instead, this one is fizzling out

I suspect because vaccines are working

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Nursing home COVID infections are rising

While absolute numbers still low, they are up 3X over past month and highest since March

And we need a national strategy to prevent more suffering in this very vulnerable population

Why are they rising and what can we do?

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First, you may be surprised

Didn't we vaccinate NH residents?

We did -- but about 19% still unvaccinated

But the big issue?

42% of NH workers not vaccinated

So when community transmission rises, more COVID shows up in nursing homes

But there are two more issues

2/4
First, NH residents were among the first to get vaccinated

Based on Israeli data, their immunity may be waning

And second, they are vulnerable, often frail

So a breakthrough infection, which might be a nuisance for a healthy person, can be very serious for a frail person

3/4
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Leaked CDC slides on delta variant got you concerned?

I find the slides insightful & largely reassuring

Bottom line

Delta variant is a problem

Vaccines prevent vast majority of infections, transmission

And nearly all hospitalizations, deaths

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So let's talk about what's in the slides about the delta variant

First, it is really, really contagious

Like more contagious than Ebola, Spanish Flu and probably chicken pox

Really contagious

2/n
Second, it appears to cause more serious disease if you get infected

I've been worried this is the case but certainly not sure

The data here is suggestive but not definitive

So reasonable to say delta probably more severe

3/n
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28 Jul
CDC revised its mask recommendations for vaccinated people

Its causing relief among in some circles, confusion in others and anger in others yet

My take?

A modest change with likely modest effects

A change that is responding to the realities on the ground

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So here's the thing

Changing guidance in response to new evidence isn't flip-flopping

Its what we should always do

CDC said in May that vaccinated people are largely safe (they rarely get infected, they don't spread)

That was correct

At the time

Before Delta showed up

2/5
With delta:

unvaccinated people have 1000X the viral load of the previous variant

And now, new data (we haven't seen it yet) suggests:

While breakthrough infections are uncommon

But when they happen, some vaccinated folks have a high viral load too

Not ideal

3/6
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For much of winter, spring, I was VERY optimistic we'd have a great summer with few infections, deaths

Through June, things looked good

But situation has clearly turned worse

There are 3 things that have turned out worse than I anticipated

So lets talk about them

Thread
1. Delta -- turns out to be way more contagious than anything we've seen before

2. Vaccinations. We hit a wall with under 50% of population fully immunized

3. Waning immunity -- still prelim -- but more breakthrough infections as folks get further out from their shots

2/4
Combo:

Super contagious variant
Lots of unvaccinated folks
And more breakthrough infections

Sets up a vicious cycle

And a tough few months ahead

We need to break the cycle

How?

Public health measures (masks, reduced indoor gatherings, ventilation, testing) will help

3/4
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21 Jul
Vaccinations have fallen off a cliff

We are now administering about 500K shots a day -- half of them 2nd shots

At this rate, it'll take about another year to get to 80% fully vaccinated

But we can do better than that if we do a few things

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If we continue vaccinating 250K new folks/day, yes, it'll take another year to get to 80%

But of course, as we vaccinate,

remaining population gets harder to reach...so things will slow further

So what to do?

First, it'll help to get kids 5-11 eligible -- probably fall

2/4
But that won't be near enough

So what will help?

1. Continue reaching out to unvaccinated, answering questions, improving access

2. FDA full approval. Yes, this will help a lot

3. Schools & businesses creating virus-free spaces through vaccination requirements

3/4
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Don't love to see this

Infections up nationally -- about 50% from two weeks ago

This is the Delta variant now widespread

Test positive from 1.7% --> 3.2% nationally

But this is not the whole story

Infections increasing in 22 states
Holding steady in 15
Falling in 13

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Here are your three most vaccinated states -- still low, holding steady

Combined, Test + around 0.6%

And your three lowest vaccinated states -- not great

Combined, Test + around 6%

But even in states with moderate degrees of vaccinations, cases are rising
Thankfully, unlikely to see run on hospitals nationally

Because most high risk folks vaccinated

But more infections, hospitalizations unfortunately on the way unless we:

1. Employ public health measures again (masks, distancing etc)

2. Get 60-65% of population vaccinated

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