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31 Jul, 43 tweets, 9 min read
It's the weekend!

Grab a cup of coffee, in this thread I will explain

1. What drives valuation of a company?
2. Why some companies are valued at high multiples while others aren't?
3. What you should be looking for while buying a business?

Lets dive right in.
Not so long ago, Maruti released an ad campaign - 'Kitna Deti Hai'? (What's the mileage?)

Here is one of the ad's from the campaign.

The ad was on point - Indians before buying a car or any vehicle obsess over the mileage the most among all the other specifications.

We as a society are very value conscious.

Nobody has to teach us to drive a good bargain.
The logic for obsessing over mileage also checks out.

If a vehicle gives good mileage then over time as owners of the vehicle you will end up spending less on it in fuel and other added costs.
This ability to gauge long term value before buying something is magically lost when we enter stock market.

Here too you should be asking your stocks - 'Kitna deta hai'?

This time instead of obsessing over mileage, you should be obsessing over cash flows.
Just like manufacturing most fuel efficient cars drove the sales of Maruti during the 2000s, its the cash flows and ability of the company to incrementally increase its cash flows, is what drives a value of a business.
Lets take another example.
You have Rs 1 lakh that you want to invest.
Your objective is to generate Rs 1,000 of monthly income from your investment.
You walk around your neighborhood to find a suitable business to buy.
After walking and searching for a bit, you find this ice cream shop that is up for sale.
Now ask yourself, what would be the first few metrics you will enquire before buying the business?
The answer should be.

1. What do I have to pay to buy the business in whole today?
2. How much income (cash) does that business generate?
The same rule applies when you're buying any stock.
Market Cap of the Stock = What you're paying to buy the business in whole today

Cash Flow from Operations = Income that business generates
Its shocking to me that so many investors do not look at market cap as the very first thing before they start evaluating a stock.

How do you know how much to pay per piece if you do not know what the entire business is worth?
In our example from earlier, if the ice cream shop was valued at Rs 10 Lakh but could only generate an yearly income of Rs 10,000 - would you pay for it?
Your answer should be No!,

as it would take you 100 years to recoup your investment of Rs 10 lakhs.

By the time you get that money back, you and the possibly the shop won't be alive anymore.
Lesson # 1

Always look at Market Cap to decide what you're paying for a business.
Now lets assume that the ice cream business was investing to build an app that lets customers directly order from the store.

Is the business now suddenly worth more cause it has an app?
The answer is No.

However, if the investment in that app also meant that sales could now grow at 100% every year for next 5 years, then yes! It can be worth more.

Why, you ask?
Because the business is now growing at a fast rate and that means it can generate more income.

Now your investment of Rs 10 Lakhs maybe worth it, as in year 10 of the business you maybe earning Rs 1 Lakh per year.
Lesson # 2

Growing business are worth more than stagnant ones.
Now imagine there is another ice cream shop across the street, that is available at the same price of Rs 10 lakh, already has an app and growing sales at 100% YoY as well.
Would you prefer to buy this shop over the first one?

Answer is yes.

Why?

Cause its available today and shows returns today than 10 years down the line.
Lesson # 3

Market pays a higher value to businesses that can deliver earnings today than business that will deliver earnings in 10 years.
You walk further down your neighborhood and find a coffee shop that is also up for sale.
This business however has superior margins compared to the ice cream business you first saw.

While ice creams had a margin of 20%, this coffee business can do 35% margins. This business too has an app and can grow sales at 100% YoY.
Should this business command more in valuation compared to others?

Yes!

Why?
Cause it can generate more cash for the same sales as the ice cream business.
Lesson # 4

Two business with same sales and economics, the one with higher margins will be more valuable.

Margins matter more than quantum of sales.

Thats why market is always looking for businesses with operating leverage.
You now learn that the coffee business is also pivoting to a proven subscription model where your customers are loading their coffee cards upfront and using those to buy coffee from your shop.
Will this increase the value of your coffee business?

Yes!

Why?
Cause you now have increased certainty and longevity of cash flows from your business. Your customers are essentially paying you upfront for something they will use much later.
This is essentially the business model of Starbucks.
It holds more cash than many banks.
Lesson # 5
Certainty, Good Visibility and Longevity of Earnings command a higher value.
These are just some of the ways market gives value to a company, there are many more, but all of them focus on one simple thing - the ability to earn cash, grow it and protect those earnings over long durations.

Nothing else over long term will drive the valuation.
As an investor, look for business, that are

a. Increasing Earnings
b. Can Protect Those Earnings
c. Demonstrate certainty of those earnings
d. Have a business model that is more than just narratives and plans
e. Demonstrate Longevity of Earnings
If you find a business that has the above characteristics and has a market cap that is reasonable or lower than it should get (not 100x Earnings) then you can buy and hold these businesses till they keep growing.
Valuation is more of an art than a formula, the models like DCF, Dividend Discount, Gordon Growth etc. are good for text books and make investment managers sound smart.

They will however, rarely help you in your own personal investment.
Following simple rules and asking common sensical questions will infact go a long way.
With this, we come to an end of this thread.
I hope this helped you understand the basics of valuation.
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31 Jul
The two main Q's are

a) Is demand outpacing supply?
b) Are the margins of companies sustainable?

Answer to both the Questions and you can see the Investment thesis.
Part A is answered, lots been written about it.

Google it. spend sometime understanding the energy sector and shift happening in the industry and you can see why and how demand is outpacing supply.

Good to be skeptic but also equally important to acknowledge facts and figures.
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No business will move linearly up or linearly down.
You can get all the numbers from their filings, so I won't talk about them.

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Grab a cup of coffee, in this thread I will explain

1. How I achieved financial independence before my 28th Birthday?
2. How a janitor become a millionaire?
3. How even you can live a financially healthy life by following a few concepts?

Lets dive right in.
This year before my 28th Birthday.

My Net Worth surpassed my Lifetime Earnings and I achieved my goal of becoming Financially Independent.

Financial Independence = When you do not have to work to earn for a living, you work cause you like to on whatever that makes you happy.
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It depends on your

- Risk Appetite
- Goals
- Psychology
- Age
- Responsibilities

1/n
Someone who is

Young
Right out of College
Doesn't Need Money for Next 10 years
Doesn't Have any Dependents

should be allocated more towards Equities than someone who is

Old
Heading for Retirement
Needs Consistent Income
Has Many Dependents

2/n
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Company still branded as commodity chemicals when it derives ~50% of its revenue from specialty chemicals.
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That means out of 4000 listed stocks, there are less than 40 stocks that will turn 100 baggers in year 2032

40/4000 = Less than ~1%

You have better luck winning a lottery!

Aim Low.
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2⃣ It's not discovered and unknown
3⃣ Nil institutional ownership
4⃣ Management can dream big
5⃣ Management can execute
6⃣ Promoters are honest
7⃣ Business evolving into newer products
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