It's all kicked off on George "Freedum" Square, with the bam faction of the Indy movement packing a couple of benches.
I think it was the promise of MORE speakers than the advertised 12 that brought so many out.
Can't believe so few turned out to see this riveting group of bams, SWiPs , transphobes and has beens though.
A friend on the square has counted 73 at ten mins in.
Twenty minutes in and the crowd has swollen, but all of them are hiding behind the monument.
Half an hour in and someone else has turned up.
Over three quarters of an hour in, and the huge crowd seems to be mostly out of shot.
An hour in and the crowd is swelling. Well, their ankles probably are.
An hour and a quarter in, and the bam wing of indy is enthralled by speaker after speaker saying things loudly.
An hour and a half in, and the pigeons have left...
Bammockburn Rising...
Two hours in and the latecomers seem to have been waylaid by a box set and a bag of chips somewhere...
Two and a quarter hours, and SWP paper sales are dreadful, and the bucket is rattling a little...
This really is like watching Alba Rising like someone with a slipped disc.
"Are we the baddies?" None of them thought, ever.
"No... it was the trains/weather/everyone is exhausted after yesterday/thousands watched it online..."
2 hrs 30 mins in and credit must go to those who have stayed this long.
Three full hours for some of these people. They may be few, but their senses are dulled enough to get through 12+ onstage bammery . 👏
The pigeons have come back. They sense "the end is nigh."
I think this is going to be the last. Look, I know as soon as we stop watching, thousands will turn up. But I need to turn my attention to interesting stuff, like watching grass grow, or kettles boiling.
OK... this is definitely the last. Wanted to check how many SWP paper sellers would stay in the rain. Looking like it is JUST those competitive cult kids left.
I think we can squeeze out one more paper, get Tahmee on again!
And it's all over until next year. Unless Sheridan, Findlay etc find some new excuse to rattle buckets, platform transphobes and rape apologists and misogynists and convicted liars...
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1 feel listened to
2 grow a community
3 bring people together
4 sow discord amongst alienated people
5 pull alienated people together in cultist, right wing anger
6 create angry community
It is an incredible space to manipulate.
"Thought Reform" is on display on social media, constantly, injected in to movements in order to create discord and splits. To do this, the bad actors need to control the narrative and make people believe sometimes what was the opposite of what they once believed. Edward Hunter
came up with eight criteria to describe how totalitarian regimes/cults go about this.
1 Milieu control. The leader, or a select band, has complete control of information. Isolate people from outside information. People are taught to trust only the internal publications
Wings is also berating ordinary people for having a bit of wit. The grifters Sheridan etc al have leeched off movements now to tge point most people understand their grift. And grassroots really are not transphobic.
These people went out to build a socially Conservative movement
and found out that Scotland really isn't as socially right wing as they thought.
What Wings failed to notice was the actual movement flooding the streets on Saturday, giving out well researched and put together literature.
Wings, Salmond, Sheridan Findlay etc al are more
than yesterday's people. They are bigoted dinosaurs who thought they could be dream twisters and inject their nastiness into something that was colourful, inclusive, positive.
What you hear from them isn't the sound of indy butterfly
The good thing is, that Sheridan and Salmond have exhausted the new following they got post 2014. There is nothing so exhausting than during each time Sheridan (and the everpresent swp) inserts himself into an organisation/movement/campaign, trying to explain to good people
just how divisive and awful this man is. Today's debacle on George Square has at last, shown good people who were caught in his gravity have managed to see through him and moved on.
The Indy movement really does not need misogynists or handsy men. It really is rejecting them
and seeing through their claims to unity and past victories.
We really must ensure these people can't wreck our movement, or aspects if it.
It really shouldn't be surprising that they have picked up transphobes (SNP hating Denise Findlay is an example of one) and rape
As others have said, the Cult of the Wings Over #Indyref mouth foamers, have looked shaky of late, turning in and on themselves. But. Again, as we've said, and others are now saying, the cult MUST be maintained, so just as religious cults do, political cults must make diverging
cult members extremely uncomfortable. With threats, and of course with their isolationist block lists. Scientology does this, jehovahs witnesses do this, as do other cultish religions. The cult must be pure. The power of the cult must be built, not weakened... And whatever
Alba members are complaining that some in the independence movement are gloating, because of their failure to win seats in the Scottish Parliament. In saying what I am saying, I am not gloating. To see this failure, and to see a few thousand activists who could be positively
active exploited in the way they have been, is actually gutting. Activism, protest, amplified voices CAN be used to bring about positive change. But we've all witnessed in the USA how radicalising prejudice misdirected anger is really dangerous... And ultimately impotent
except for those at the top of the tree. Salmond and others are exploiting and misdirecting people in a way that would make Steve Bannon and others like those who ran Cambridge Analytica, proud.
Personally, i felt it really was good to see yesterday's man, Salmond (and
Sam Hamad: "People think there's still an 'Israeli-Palestinian conflict'? Israel won the 'conflict' years, possibly decades, ago. There's simply the imprisonment of Gazans and the daily brutality of the occupation of those who live in the ever-shrinking West Bank. Israel's
strategy is now permanent occupation, incremental (though emboldened) cleansing and annexation.
Rocket attacks are acts of useless, essentially harmless defiance by oppressed peoples against a triumphant, untouchable enemy. Condemning these entirely harmless rocket
attacks if there was a deal just about to be signed for a two-state solution would make sense, but I actually think it's amazing that in recent years, given the hopelessness of the situation in Gaza, there hasn't been worse than rockets being unleashed against Israel.