If a beginner's goal is just side income, then swingtrade.
But if his goal is to master this shit & go full time, then he should daytrade at first. Mainly because trading is a skill, and fastest way to improve at any skill is thru repetition
And the hardest part about trading is not the ACTUAL trading, it's the mastery of emotions and the shedding of bad habits, which takes time and repetition. By swing trading as a beginner u're not exposing yourself to the market enough to expose AND shed off those shitty behaviors
That's why when ppl are still under PDT, they think "oh wow, im pretty disciplined". no bitch u only have 3 trades, of course u're "DiSciPliNeD". Then once they go off PDT they start blowing up , b/c now they have unlimited trades & their impulsive nature finally reveals itself
So conclusion, beginners who want to do this fulltime should start daytrading 1st, to quickly get the learning curve shit out of the way (b/c depending on how stubborn u are, that can take yrs). Once that phase is over they can continue daytrading or transition.
The power of quality over quantity never fails to amaze me. As some of u kno, ive been working on a little experiment lately (less time in front of screens, more time with family/friends, working out, hobbies etc). I 100% believed that my profits decrease during this experiment
But i was willing to pay that small price in exchange for more "balance" & a break from the "if i dont work 12-15hrs a day staring at screens then im not productive" mindset". Contrary to my expectations (that i would make LESS money), the OPPOSITE actually happened.
I reduced my "trading time" to just 3 hrs a day max (2.5 hrs in the AM to open/manage swings, and just 30min in the afternoon for market review + tracking + charts etc), and I actually made MORE money in the last few months than I did when I was spending almost ALL day on the cpu
Saying that placing stop losses is pointless because there is a chance they might get ran is like saying wearing a condom with the college slut is pointless because there is a chance that it might pop anyway.
Until gonorrhea hits u with the "you gon learn today".
Also dont think "FiNe iLL jUst uSe a MeNtAl StoP tHeN".
Market makers are not dumb. they dont need to SEE ur stop to know it's there. Based on volume, order flow & stats they can estimate where most ppl's pain thresholds are. So NO ONE is safe from this, hard stop or mental stop
The point of that thread was not "dont use stops". it's "use stop hunting as an EDGE in ur own trading". If u cant beat em, join em. As far as ur own stops go, some day they'll hold, some day they'll get ran too. who tf cares? losses are part of the game. manage em, dont avoid em
One of the most common questions I get is "I feel like they're coming for my stops".
Sounds like a conspiracy theory, but fun fact, it's not.
The market is DESIGNED to stop people out. You will always struggle with entries, exits and risk management until u understand this.
That's why everything can look good in hindsight & on ur backtested charts, but when shit gets real & the cameras start rolling, it quickly becomes a different ball game. Just b/c it looks perfect on ur stats & saved charts, doesn't mean it will always be perfect in real time
U can think "ok, i've seen this happen over & over again. I practiced. I studied. I'm ready", then soon as u get on the field and put ur football 🏈helmet on, u realize the field just switched to a fucking skating rink. The market says " u're playing hockey now, motherf*cker"
4) was my size calculated BEFORE the trade, in accordance with my risk management system? or did I randomly estimate what size to use?
5) did I have a systematic ENTRY or did I get in at some random ass area due to FOMO?
Do this for EVERY trade u took that day. Then overtime,
you'll see where most of your losses or stubborn trades come from. Is it #1? #3 ? #5? which of those 5 points leads to 80% of your losses (Pareto Principle) ? is it entries? exits? size? trade selection? it's different for everyone since we're all stubborn in different ways.
1) Even tho i was profitable before that, I would say about 2 yrs.. mainly bc even during my "profitable" streaks i would still have the occasional full retard days that would wipe out months of gains. so i knew how to make 💵, but discipline wasnt there until 2yrs later.
2) depends. if u're talking lowfloats then of course, i NEVER ever short a lowfloat stock without digging into its filings & fundamentals first. Too much edge there not to, plus it saves me from getting trapped on "agenda plays" like freedom price setups or planned offerings etc
now if u're talking LCs or options then i do almost zero fundamental research b/c it's useless short term. most of the fundy info for LCs is already factored into price unlike lowfloats where a stock can have a fat ATM or dilution yet idiot chasers will still be clueless about it
The more I answer questions the more I realize how full of shit this industry is. the amount of scammers & "gurus" out there who lure beginners in w/ unstainable strategies that offer short term satisfaction but long term failure is astounding. They lure u in with shit like this
Meanwhile the reality is THIS.
and u guys are EATING this shit up like it's fucking cheesecake.
STOP falling for this BS.
Most of my time spent on DMs is literally me helping ppl UNLEARN the shitty habits they built up listening to fuck ass scammy gurus that blow up themselves but then refund with YOUR money