DAY 3 THREAD, LAS VEGAS QANON CONFERENCE

We're joining slightly late. Day 2 coverage is below, including Jim Caviezel's *very* militant speech.

So, the current speaker is angry about "woke supremacy."

"This is war," he says, "an existential war."

At one point he made fun of the idea that "silence is violence" before IMMEDIATELY transitioning to:

so how can we fight "woke supremacy?" Folks, we have to stop being silent. It lets the bad guys win.

SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE IDEA BEHIND THE SLOGAN "SILENCE IS VIOLENCE," BUDDY.
The speaker's demographic groups will not surprise you.
"For those out there who have fallen for the lie that they have to vote Democrat... I am a New York City-born liberal Jew," citation needed on your liberalism, because -- well, see next tweet.

"I don't know anybody who votes Democrat. I know people who vote against Republicans."
"I don't know anybody who likes the filth in the streets... that Democratic policies bring."

Very normal talk for a liberal, you hear it all the time in liberal circles. 🙄

But it's UNironically normal talk for Republicans -- conservatives DO talk that way all the time.
Also, you see ALL KINDS of liberals giving talks at QAnon conferences! Totally normal!

He is now comparing "woke supremacists" to Nazis.

"You think about Nazi atrocities," he says, and oh no where is this going?
He lists things like Kavanaugh's sexual assault of Dr. Blasey-Ford becoming an issue.

And Trump's impeachment.

And then he -- wait, what?? He says "These do not rise to the level of Nazi atrocities." Correct, they don't, why are you -- oh.
He says that the "woke supremacists'" activities remind him of what the Nazis did *before* taking power.

Of course.

As always, QAnon is a reality inversion field. Here's a fun example from December 11, 2020 -- a month after Biden's victory was known, about a month before J6:
And honestly, how much daylight was there between that post and *mainstream conservative* views? I mean, J6 wasn't all QAnon people. It wasn't even mostly QAnon people.

The speaker wraps up by claiming to be a "liberal" who is simply "late to the fight."
He's not. Liberals don't tell conservatives exactly what they want to hear *at a QAnon conference.*
The next speaker is...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE *ORIGINAL* JFK JUNIOR HIMSELF, MR. VINCE FUSCO!

(If you're new here: for some f'ing reason a bunch of QAnon people -- esp ladies of a certain age -- think this guy is secretly JFK Junior. Why? Look, we're a horny species, OK?)
"Every day," he says, "We watch a shit show from the White House. Lies and lies and lies.... they think we're dummies. Well, they're the dummies."

YEAH, FINCE, YOU TELL 'EM.

*You are rubber!*

*They are glue!*
Let's take a moment to appreciate what they've put in front of the flag here.

whomst do i call to report this violation of the flag code

is it the marshal of the supreme court????????
That's the lectern, btw, so this is constantly in the center of the camera's field of view.
Oh, hey, he just shouted out Sonny Borrelli, a far-right AZ state legislator who's apparently in attendance: "Mr. Borrelli over here."
"The Greatest Generation," says Fusca, "came back and they handed us the country. They handed us the Internet. They handed us the moon."
Fusca ends his time on stage with "WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL" -- probably the best-known QAnon slogan.
Wait, wait, OK, I spoke too soon. He's making a series of gestures that -- if QAnon saw someone THEY DIDN'T LIKE making those gestures -- would immediately be proof of Satanic affiliation.

While he does this, he praises the next speaker: AZ State Senator Sonny Borrelli.
Sonny Borrelli isn't just some random back-bencher, by the way. He's the Senate Whip for the AZ GOP -- meaning he's the 2nd-in-command and his job is basically to make sure every state senator supports the party line. Whip is a *very* important & influential position.
Borrelli gave a very brief talk and then... went off the stage? What just happened? Why is the MC back on stage now?

Literally the only memorable part of it was when he said "I'm a state senator," unless you count the part where he said "what the fudgsicle."
Next speaker is a candidate for Nevada Secretary of State, i.e. the chief election official, namely Jim Marchant.

It is *not great* for any candidate -- but especially this kind -- to be here at the QAnon conference, thinking it's good for their brand.
Marchant says, "Right after the election, Juan [O Savin, a QAnon influencer] showed up" with "a few others, a few other Trump allies."

Juan O Savin was *anonymous* prior to this convention.

And he was only famous in QAnon circles.

Why did Marchant know anything about him?
Marchant says that these pro-Trump figures asked him to help bring together a group of Stop the Steal figures who would be willing to run for Secretary of State to run their states' elections prior to 2024.

"Juan O Savin helped," he says again.
I cannot emphasize enough how much you'd have to be Q-pilled to know anything about Juan O Savin.

Prior to this event, Juan had never even broadcast his face.

You'd HAVE to be deep into the movement to see him as a famous person.
Marchant also mentions that someone at the Claremont Institute whose name I didn't catch helped with the effort to put together a Stop the Steal slate.

Marchant says, "We need fundraising" which, he claims, is "always hard for conservatives." They don't, you see, have a Soros.🙄
So he's hitting them up for donations and -- oh, wow, he's just wrapped up his speech immediately after that.

Anyway, IRL Republicans *crush* Democrats in terms of investment in down-ballot races, and this has been the case as long as I've been following politics.
In general, the GOP's wealthy donors understand the value of state and local offices much more than Dem super-donors. Think pieces about this have been coming out for at least a decade. It's not a secret.
A candidate for Michigan Secretary of State has come out to talk about "how well-coordinated, how nefarious this agenda was to undermine the will of the American people."

This is going to be more of the usual, so I'mma go do RL stuff. Will update if there's anything new.
I will add, before I go, that she too is going "SOROS!" but also is vaulting @marceelias up near the top of her list of public enemies.

I've seen a *lot* of hate for him floating around QAnon circles. So congrats, @marceelias -- you're over the target, as they say. :D
The next speaker is a GOP candidate for California Secretary of State named Rachel Hamm.

“I’m a prophetic dreamer,” she says. For some other stuff she’s said, see:

thedailybeast.com/gop-candidate-…
Hamm says that when Trump left office, she asked God why Trump would “quit on us.”

God replied: “Because he’s a good father,” and he understands that Americans need to “learn the hard way” that Trump was right about everything all the time ever.
“They’re cheaters, they’re liars, and they’re thieves. I don’t like any of those kind of people,” says Rachel Hamm, who is 😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩 for Donald J Trump.
The Secretary of State candidates are now all on stage for a Q&A
Mark Finchem, AZ State legislator and Trump-endorsed candidate for AZ Secretary of State, is on stage at the QAnon conference.
Finchem quotes “a German Jew from the 1940s — you know what happened in the 1940s — who said that a country isn’t just what it does, but what it tolerates.”

“We have been far too tolerant of those who want to cancel us,” he says.
"Make California American again," says a GOP candidate for CA Secretary of State at the QAnon conference.

Wild cheers from the audience.

Remember: these people *will not* accept any election outcome other than GOP victory; they think anything else is un-American & illegitimate.
Further proving 👇, Mark Finchem of AZ complains that "all of these states that are controlled by Democrat machines" are subverting the will of their voters --

blue states, in other words, are presumptively illegitimate. No real American would vote D!

The QAnon conference is now playing a tribute to Donald Trump, backed by a *very* melodramatic opera singer.

And, like, I know opera is MEANT to be melodramatic. But even so.
Looks like the next panel is gonna be about the Arizona "audit."

They're airing a clip that, hilariously, tells the truth about how Republicans' "TRUMP WUZ ROBBED" shtick works:

"We knew SOMETHING was wrong with the election. We didn't know what, but it didn't feel right."
Of course, it would NEVER have "felt right" to them *unless Trump won.*

That's the game. That's why you can't go "oh, we'll let these people 'audit' the election. Then they'll be satisfied!"

They won't. The Arizona "audit" showed that Trump lost *and it changed zero minds*...
even among many of the auditors *who reached that result themselves*!

Because, again, it's not about evidence. It's about their emotions.

"People need to be prosecuted," says AZ State Senator Sonny Borrelli in a clip.
Radical Arizona senator Wendy Rogers appears in a clip -- she's also at the conference in person but hasn't spoken yet, so I ASSUME she'll be on this panel.

"We want arrests made. We want to proceed with getting to the bottom of the truth about 2020," she says. Note the order.
In a real investigation one would, of course, procure evidence first and THEN arrest someone based on the evidence.

But if the goal is simply to throw everyone in jail who you blame for Trump losing power, sure! Arrest away. Why not?

This is naked fascism.
Wendy Rogers is now on stage along at the QAnon conference along with Mark Finchem, Sonny Borrelli, and a fourth man (far right) whose name I've missed.

The fourth man is speaking. "What's Q?" he asks, to laughter from the audience, while wearing an American flag pin w/a Q.
Here's the speaker whose name I missed. If any of you know who he is, please let me know; he says he was on a phone call with Rudy Giuliani and Sonny Borrelli.

So I'm guessing he's *some* sort of Arizona political figure.
Each of the 4 people on stage has been allotted 10 minutes to speak.

The first one is launching a standard Stop the Steal harangue and I expect it to be much the same from the others.

So next up is 40 minutes of lies, then a Q&A. 🙃

I'll update w/anything especially notable.
ONE update is the identity of the mystery speaker: AZ state Rep. -- eh, just read it yourself:

UPDATE TWO: I *think* I was wrong to say that Biasucci was wearing a Q pin.

On closer examination it may be something else. At the very least I'm not 100% certain, so I'm retracting -- please don't spread it around, it is not confirmed.
AZ state Senator Sonny Borrelli just spoke and said -- this is a summary, not a direct quote -- well of COURSE the audit doesn't show fraud, because the fraud isn't IN the ballots.

And here's the thing. These people act like that was ALWAYS their theory of the case.

It wasn't.
Early election-fraud claims centered around:

1) vote switching via machines. This, if correct, would be immediately detectable on inspecting the actual ballots;

2) illegitimate ballots being brought in overnight (also thoroughly and easily debunked).
The NEW hotness -- because both of the early claims have fallen through, and fallen through *spectacularly* -- is to claim:

well, the VOTERS were illegitimate.

This is why they're going "it's not enough to audit" -- because counting the votes proved AGAIN that Biden won --
but rather, the "Stop the Steal" crowd asserts that we have to canvass the (always heavily Democratic) areas where they claim there's "fraud" and "corruption" to see if these so-called Democratic voters even EXIST.

They tried that in AZ, by the way, and fucked it up royally.
They fucked it up so badly that even CyberNinjas backed away from the idea of incorporating the "canvass" into their final report.
But that's not the main point.

The main point is: the Stop the Steal crowd has always been operating in bad faith, and their stories constantly shift. Yet they act as though, noooooo, their LATEST claim is what they've spouted all ALONG!

*Never* believe they're in *good* faith.
BTW, Wendy Rogers spoke after Borrelli. I didn't cover her because @az_rww is recording her whole speech and can give a MUCH better account of it than I could with a semi-transcription.

Also, it was just... more of the usual.

So now we're on to the Q&A.
@az_rww The panelists keep pushing for cavasses (like I said, this is the only option available to them: if the "fraud" isn't visible in the ballots, then EITHER there was no fraud and Trump really lost -- which they will never accept -- OR the voters *themselves* are fraudulent).
@az_rww Mark Finchem is pushing for audience members to become precinct committeemen, in part by telling the story of a young man who ran for that office and "was so proud that his name appeared on the same ballot as Donald Trump's."

But again: it's NOT a Trump-worshipping cult, y'all.
@az_rww Wendy Rogers is now telling people how to apply for medical exemptions to vaccine mandates.

I want to stress that this is at a Q&A about election audits.

*All* the right-wing grievances are just... one huge mishmash of "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
OMG, I just realized:

Wendy Rogers is Evil Tina Fey
@az_rww OK, we're at the last question on the Q&A.

This, says the questioner, is "God's country, and we need to take it back."

Applause.

The speaker is from Oregon and says she's a primary-care physician. "Our first responders and medical personnel are being told...
@az_rww that their licenses will be pulled if they don't get the jab."

Wendy Rogers says: if you get fired from your medical job, talk to America's Frontline Doctors.

Some of them have home-delivery-of-intravenous-solutions businesses now.
HOLY SHIT, Wendy Rogers!

Rogers claims: "That's how they're killing patients in hospitals -- they're refusing to administer intravenous fluids," among other ways.

I didn't realize Rogers was so far gone that she's aligned with the "they're killing us in the hospitals" crowd.
Again, this is during a Q&A that's *supposed* to be about the Arizona "audit."

But y'know what? It's a QAnon conference. Q people are gonna be Q people.
The stream was down for a while, and I THOUGHT I was gonna have to end this thread ingloriously, but no, it's back.

The MC blames a power outage, but says that thankfully the bar was spared.
"Our next guest is really, really powerful," says the MC.

They play the Pink Panther theme song over a propaganda video about how John Durham is going to bring the whole Cabal down because Reasons.
I can't believe they gave Durham a fedora!

The facial hair ALREADY makes him ridiculous! Why are you making it WORSE????
Anyway, the Uranium One sticker gives me another chance to shout out @researchFQX for realizing that Q *probably* chose the "Q Clearance" claim because the U1 "scandal" was a big deal in right-wing media when Q was just getting started.
@ResearchFQX In the right-wing imagination, Hillary Clinton PERSONALLY sold our uranium to Russia for Reasons™ and then covered it up, also for Reasons™.

Q's story took this lie in exciting new directions: according to Q, Hillary and Obama sold uranium to North Korea (which was CIA-run)...
so that its "government" (again, really the CIA) could do a big nuclear blackmail against any Patriot™ who became President of the United States and started trying to drain the Deep State Swamp.

Also to Iran for the same reasons, I guess??? Sure, why not.
ANYWAY, Q clearance is the Department of Energy's top clearance. Government employees who specialize in tracking nuclear proliferation, for example, tend to have Q clearance.

So THAT'S (probably) why Q went "I HAVE Q CLEARANCE" -- they claimed to have the goods on Uranium One.
ANYWAY, the next speaker is minor Mueller investigation figure George Papadopolous.

So far he's just whined a lot, especially about "RINOs" who tried to strangle the MAGA movement in its cradle.

Naturally, he names none of them (I guess in case he wants to ally with 'em later)
He opened, incidentally, with "There are but two parties in this country -- patriots and traitors." The crowd applauded.

Now, minutes later, he comes back to "We're here to support democracy and fight autocracy.... This is a peaceful movement."

Then he starts talking about J6.
Now his wife is on the stage.

She's an immigrant, but a white-enough immigrant that everyone's cool with her. Plus she's been on Fox News a lot so they like that too.
Women, find yourself a husband who looks at you with cold-eyed reptilian possessiveness like George Papadopolous:
"I don't even know who's running this Oval Office, guys," says George Papadopolous, former foreign-policy advisor to the Trump campaign, "but this is a Communist, socialist agenda... with Chinese characteristics."

Hey, he knows a buzzword! Several of them! Good for you, George.
Mrs. Papadopolous has spent a bunch of time reassuring everyone that they're not racists or bad people and that -- she has a thick accent so I may be misquoting here --

"these are people who wish to live in a MAGA society."

I wish they WOULD go live in a separate society.🤷‍♂️
"They want to replace God with the state," lies Mr. Papadopolous.

Conservatives really cannot stop lying about liberals. You could wake them up at 3 AM and they'd scream "DEMOCRATS ARE COMMIES!", then *immediately* go back to sleep.
"The same people," says Mrs. Papadopolous, "support Hunter Biden."

No. Again: the conservative impulse to lie about libs is *so strong.*

I don't know anyone who gives a single solitary fuck about Hunter Biden. We don't worship Biden *or* his family. We're not like Republicans.
"Unfortunately that's the society we live in," says George Papadopolous, "where you have so-called celebrities telling people how to vote. All of a sudden they're political experts."

Moments later, he starts talking about how great & inspiring Trump's run for President was.
The presentation has devolved into one long whine about Russiagate.

Papadopolous is REALLY hauling himself up onto a cross here. To give you a sample:

"Did I know that I was... entering into a den of vipers? No." (The ellipse isn't omitting anything major, btw.)
Behind the ellipse was just some throat-clearing and circumlocutions. I think the full quote was something like "Did I know that I was, as an American citizen working for a presidential campaign" and then a short description of the Trump campaign I can't recall word-for-word.
Papadopolous does seem to appreciate his wife's support through the time when the President called him a coffee boy (🤣).

He doesn't want to quote the exact remark, so instead says: "people lied about me to the President," leading Trump to "distance himself."

☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️
Papadopolous claims that Durham's investigation will end with "indictments of major figures from the Obama White House."

The crowd cheers and claps.
This has to be the last presentation today, right? I believe the conference ends at 2:30 and it's already 2:05.
The MC is back on stage, proposing a toast and then starting a "USA" chant.

Wait... IS this how the conference is going to end? That CAN'T be right.
No, OK, they're gonna have one more speaker. The next speaker is a...
As always, this is DEFINITELY not a QAnon conference.

Zoom and enhance on the shirt for MORE evidence of how not-a-QAnon-conference it is!
This shirt is being hung on a chair next to the American flag, at the definitely-not-a-QAnon-chair.

This guy's speech is actually REALLY interesting so far.

He's talking about ACTUAL sex trafficking for a moment, I think, as distinct from the "Pedogate" fantasy.
He says that he was sex-trafficked as a child and "people think of sex trafficking as [kids who've been abducted]," but he's "learned" in the last six or seven years that you can be sex-trafficked while still living at home.

True. That's what most child sex trafficking is:
unfortunately, the kids are living at home and being exploited by someone in the household. That's real-world sex trafficking.

He tells the story of how he was groomed and abused as a child by one of his mother's coworkers.
"What they do is they also groom your parents." Correct.

"This guy was the juvenile judge for our town." -- I may have misheard that, but juvenile at least is correct.

They try, he observes, to be "pillars of the community." Often correct, yes. Like...
You know what protects pedophiles?

A complex set of social conventions, the gist of which is: the adults know they'll suffer social repercussions for rocking the boat *if* the perpetrator has enough people to take their side.

So most perpetrators are p. socially adept actually.
You think of them as monstrous sweaty pedophiles but they're not. I mean, there ARE a handful of people who ARE monstrous sweaty pedophiles, and they're the ones who get caught right away bc they have no adults willing to carry water for them.
Most perpetrators are much slicker than that and are able to be serial offenders -- to get away with it again and again and again and again before they're even REPORTED, and once they're reported they're not always convicted, and once convicted they often re-offend.
This is how you end up with a single pedophile molesting hundreds upon hundreds of kids.

They are a *tremendously* destructive force. They are a goddamn social scourge.

And their victims are routinely disparaged and disbelieved and even punished for coming forward.
You may wonder why I've stopped covering what the guy is saying.

That's because he has wandered away from reality-based "what is pedophilia and how does it work?" talk and into stuff like:

Since I was a child, I'd been groomed as a Manchurian Candidate by the black hats.
That's a VERY close paraphrase but not an exact quote. I think.

Maybe it IS an exact quote! He's zipping along, bc presumably there are only about 10 minutes left.
This is a very sad presentation, bc everything he says about being a victim of a pedophile is 100% believable and on-target,

and also he claims that every friend he's ever had since he was 23 years old has been planted by the pedos and/or his handlers to monitor him. :/
And the way he reconciles the fact that his father, who was a police officer, didn't stop him from being molested is that his dad must have been subverted by the black hats too.

This guy desperately needs trauma-based help, BUT he seems to think that's a trap laid by pedos.
Now he's saying that non-profits that work to help child sexual abuse survivors "work for the Vatican" and "are funded by the pedophiles."

All the people who could help him are, in his worldview, part of the conspiracy. "They're all in on it," he says.
And this is fucking awful.

BTW, the 1 in 4 girls stat is p. well-established. Child sexual assault is horrifically prevalent. That shit's not made up.

He's just... processed it completely wrong and convinced himself that anyone who wants to help is in a conspiracy against him
"I had to leave the place I had been living. I knew I had been targeted because they cut my gas lines. I had a $500 gas bill that should've been like $50."

This is just awful. Everything about it. I hate it so much. He needs help and he is extremely unlikely to ever get it.
And he has found a community that's *open* to his basic claims and will support them and affirm that he doesn't REALLY need help, that the vast conspiracy he's describing is perfectly plausible actually, and that the REAL reason society is awful to sexual-abuse survivors...
ugh, I can't even finish that sentence. This is just awful.

His deal is that trauma-based therapy is, specifically, a conspiracy and that the programs he's been in to help with it are just under the control of the bad guys, and it's just... the absolute worst. I hate this.
There are SO MANY QAnon people who were sexually abused as children and have used QAnon as a tool to try to understand what they went through.

And it offers a completely wrong understanding.
The reasons people turn against sexual-abuse victims & protect the perpetrators are SO well-studied.

And even if you've never read an academic study in your life, listen to stories about, say, how church congregations react when a pastor is accused -- or an elder or whatever.
Very quickly, within three or four stories, you'll develop a feel for how the story goes and why it goes that way.

And people don't turn against victims *because they're Satan-worshipping monsters.*

People turn against victims *bc the victims' stories make them uncomfortable.*
People turn against victims because if the victims' reports are true, they're COMPLICIT, and that clashes with their self-image.

And anyway how could such a nice, upstanding person as X (who grooms people as a way of life) DO such a thing?

Gotta be a lie or a misunderstanding.
Anyway, the speaker is now saying that the Q team rescued him via a convoluted story involving the State Department.

He's over time, so says you should read the rest and find the proof on his blog.

Ugh.

Easily the worst part of the conference so far, emotionally. Awful.
There's one more speaker even though the event was supposed to end at 2:30 PM.

Or possibly more than one? Unclear. The event organizers added at LEAST one bonus presentation, apparently
This presenter is bearded and boring.

He DID mention something about "I'm sure whoever's over here leaking all this stuff is gonna take that to the media."

Does he... know this is being livestreamed?
This guy is soooo boring. He's only halfway through??? He's said nothing noteworthy.
"If I'm working somewhere and they tell me I need a jab, I don't need a job. I got a community and I got family. I can go anywhere in this country and work, whether that's picking up trash or building houses."

Later: "My life is beautiful today, and I'm fuckin' unemployed."
That's THE only unusual thing he's said. Oh my God this guy is dull.
He says that after he and his wife started being vocally against Drag Queen Story Hour, gay and transgender people he’d known for years cut him out of their lives “without even asking what I was trying to do.”

He really seems to think this was unprovoked and unjustified.
“I hope we never hear from Q again,” says the speaker. The Q team put out enough info. They’ve done their part.

“I don’t even give a fuck if Trump’s President again. I want one of YOU to be the President,” because it’s supposed to be a movement for the people.
Sadly, that wasn’t the last speaker. There is somehow another, more Christofascist guy up here.

This event was supposed to end an hour ago. >:( But here I am, hearing about “the Lucifer-led propaganda coming down on us” from a guy who wants you to visit his website.
And to donate to his fund, which isn’t even a charity because he refused to “beg the government” for charitable status.

Juan O Savin, a major QAnon influencer who had been anonymous until this conference, apparently played a role in founding this too.
The site is called the Christian revolution .net, incidentally.
It’s working towards the goal of a society where there will be “no static trying to get a prescription for ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.”

Let’s bail on this guy for a moment and talk about Juan O Savin, since THIS guy is name dropping him so much.
The biggest news story to come out of this conference has been that Juan O Savin — a QAnon influencer who was anonymous until this weekend & is best known for having definitely real sources that say the Storm is coming any moment now — has had a national political impact.

How?
According to Jim Marchant, a “Stop the Steal” candidate for NV Secretary of State, O Savin came to him with the idea of putting together a slate of Stop The Steal people to run for the top elections offices in every swing state, & helped him actually do this.
Trump has endorsed at least one of those candidates (AZ’s Mark Finchem, who was also at the conference).

What’s EXTRA remarkable about this is: Marchant himself almost has to be Q-pilled, bc no one but QAnon superfans would know Juan O Savin’s reputation.
So what we have here is a Q-pilled candidate working with a QAnon influencer to try to put conspiratorial, pro-Trump politicians in charge of state elections operations nationwide.

THAT IS A BIG DEAL!
Anyway there’s a final speaker for the conference, but I’ve seen him before. He’s just… not very interesting to report on. Sample:

“So I’ve started noticing over the years that dead people are alive and alive people are dead.”

Yaaaawn
It’s probably worth noting that this last speaker is a pretty orthodox Q believer, repeatedly saying that Q exhorted people “57 times” to expand their thinking.
The last speaker is really leaning on Q as basically the only source of real and reliable information. It’s that old-time religion
What’s fascinating though is that he also says Q is “a website,” which… it absolutely is not.

Q posts on 8chan/8kun and their posts are reproduced on aggregators. But Q doesn’t have a damn website of their own.

Does this guy NOT KNOW THAT????
Has this guy based his whole fucking deal on QAnon without knowing even the most basic things about it??????

He claims he’s “studied the drops for the last four years, which last time I checked is equivalent to a bachelor’s degree.”
There’s a Q&A panel to hopefully wrap things up, featuring The Kate Awakening and a bunch of people who’ve already spoken.

The announcer said he’d let her have 15 minutes to introduce herself and she did it in 2.

I… think I *like* her now??? That was so respectful of my time!
They’re discussing the great mystery of why Trump appears to support the vaccine.
Redpill78 is alleging that hospitals are killing people on purpose. Again, this is a mainstream view on the conspiracist fringe of the GOP.
A woman is asking one of the influencers: what are the signs of a child that’s being abused, and if we DO suspect a kid is being abused, what should we do “since we all know CPS is corrupt?”

(QAnon people commonly suspect child protective services of sending kids to elite pedos)
The influencer who answers the question suggests you “infiltrate that situation” and get to know the kid and ask if they’re OK, then pray and do what God tells you.

But what DO you do if you think a kid’s being abused and no one can help?
Next question asker says he’s on Gab “and I blocked Torba the other day because he’s going on a really ridiculous rant. You don’t have to listen to racists on Gab.”
He comes back to it later and says that emergency shelters are the answer.
An audience member asks where the variants came from.

“A lot of doctors have suggested that maybe the vaccine WAS the Delta Variant,” says one of the panelists.
KateAwakening says that “memetic warfare” “has been around forever.”
KateAwakening sees Trump as a 5D communications genius who cunningly MADE himself look like an idiot so the media would cover it,
Question for the panel: what happens to people who took the vaccine?

"God's got 'em," says one panelist.

Another says that not EVERYONE will die, and anyway there are "protocols" to help "reverse" the definitely real ill effects of vaccines.
"All the left took the jab," says another one: "About 47% of adults in this country took the jab" (it is WAY above that) "and they're *all lefties.*"

We are, he claims, seeing terrible side effects RIPPING through society ("ripping" is my phrase, not his).
To be clear, the response above is to a different question. I am mashing them together bc they're on the same theme.

THIS question-asker says that "the left" will never see this panel and will dismiss them as kooks, but...
"are we now the mainstream media? Do we have the control?"

His theory of the case is that lefties are going to be ravaged by vaccine side effects and will turn to them in their throngs and go "WOW, LOOK HOW RIGHT THE QANON PEOPLE WERE ALL ALONG!"
What's interesting about this is *that's how they used to talk about the Storm.*

It's almost as if a huge part of QAnon's appeal is the idea that one day they would be recognized as super duper wise and worthy of the highest respect.

And it doesn't matter HOW that happens.
What's important is that it *has to happen*, and it IS going to happen, any ol' day now.

Any day.
P.S. Just as I type that, the guy on the right-hand side of that picture goes, "Something big is going to happen with the destruction of the fake news media," meaning that it will happen soon.

Any day now.
Now they're talking about Trump and Tesla and oh my God this is the dumbest shit on the face of the Earth. This was supposed to be over 2.5 hours ago!!!!
I had planned to spend the PM doing housework so I could veg out with SweetAnon and unwind during the night.

I hold QAnon John personally responsible for ruining my plans, and I WILL sue him in common-law court AS A FREEMAN ON THE LAND. 😡
THIS QUESTION IS WILD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD
I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS QUESTION, YOU GUYS
A question-asker (who had just asked who the panelists thought Vincent Fusca is; the panelist's answer was "just a guy," basically) -- SHE HAD A FOLLOW-UP.

ARE YOU READY FOR IT???? HAVE I HYPED IT ENOUGH? OKAY HERE IT COMES
She wants to know "who you think Juan O Savin was on Saturday, and who was on stage as Juan O Savin on Sunday. Because even their body parts were from a different person."

Panelist, after a brief pause: That's interesting! I talked to him both days & he knew who I was on Sun...
but that's interesting! I have to read more about that.

YOU GUYS. This lady SAW WHAT WAS MANIFESTLY THE SAME PERSON on two consecutive days, and QAnon has poisoned her brain so bad that she baked her way into thinking he was a clone or body double.

And this influencer --
without missing a beat! -- went, "That's so interesting! I'm gonna learn more about it!"

Like. What even is this movement? Why do they call it the "truth" movement?????? How do they not feel fucking ridiculous or question their life choices??????
HOW IS THIS STILL GOING ON, ALSO?

Am I still going to be livetweeting the Q&A session on Friday or something?
"There's also relevant truth," says one speaker, "but I would encourage everyone to separate relevant truth from ordinary truth. Because there's a lot of truth, but [sometimes you should say] 'I don't think I should spend very much time on this. It's not relevant.'"
"Please," he says, "know the difference."

This man is MILLIMETERS from self-awareness.

That was actually the last answer they're allowed to give! They gotta GTFO the venue.
So the last act is to try to get everyone up on stage for a photo.

I wonder what Vince Fusca thinks about sharing the stage with someone who DARED to say he's not JFK Jr >:(
So that's it, I'm done, we're out.

"We'll see you all in February," says QAnon John, "in the same place."

Please, no. I beg you. Not another one. Maybe I can sucker someone ELSE into livetweeting THAT.

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* Pass laws -- at the federal and state levels -- making it a crime for an officeholder or political candidate to say that an upcoming or just-completed election was fraudulent, *unless* a court finds it really was fraudulent. Trials would be super-expedited; penalties, 5-10 yrs.
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We've reached the altar call.

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Just hopped on board the livestream for the Patriot Doubledown (i.e. the QAnon conference) in Las Vegas.

Ron Watkins is on stage, talking abou... aaaaaaaand it froze.

Still, follow this thread for a livetweet!

P.S. It's back and he's -- aaaand it froze.
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That does not get them to the polls.

OK, Q&A time!
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