Thread by @Andrew_Havranek

Good morning from Kenosha!

The #RittenhouseTrial resumes this morning, and we're expecting to hear testimony today from Gaige Grosskreutz, who was shot in the arm by Rittenhouse the night he shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber.

Here's a recap from last week:

Here's our live blog on @SpectrumNews1WI spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwaukee/n…

It appears Kyle Rittenhouse got a haircut over the weekend #RittenhouseTrial

New drone video will be admitted into evidence. This is a higher resolution video of something they previously had.

Gaige Grosskreutz is about to take the stand. Jury being called in now.

From the @AP pool reporter in the courtroom: Prosecutors and Rittenhouse attorneys withdrew to the judge's chambers before Monday's proceedings began. Rittenhouse didn't initially join them, but he later did. No indication if there was a serious issue and what it was.

Gaige Grosskreutz is on the stand. #RittenhouseTrial

ADA Thomas Binger is asking Grosskreutz about his background in medicine and why he got into the medical field.

Also asked if he has any prior criminal convictions, and said he does have one. #RittenhouseTrial

Grosskreutz is explaining all of the training he had to become an EMT.

.@SpectrumNews1WI is carrying testimony from Gaige Grosskreutz LIVE on TV and on the Spectrum News app.

Observation: Grosskreutz has made the most eye contact with the jury of any person who has testified so far. He's speaking directly to them, and not ADA Binger.

Binger continuing to ask Grosskreutz about his work with a private ambulance company in Racine as an EMT basic.

Grosskreutz is now explaining how EMTs respond to a shooting situation.

"It definitely doesn't get easier the more you do it."

Now continuing to outline his continued education as a paramedic/EMT.

Grosskreutz said he has nearly completed his Bachelors in outdoor education, has worked as a sea kayak guide.

Grosskreutz now asked about his participation in protests last year.

Said he was out demonstrating in Milwaukee after the murder of George Floyd by police in Minneapolis in May 2020.

Said what he was specifically doing was "just being in attendance."

Said these demonstrations were never violent, and people weren't destroying property or lighting fires.

Explains how he helped treat a person who had appeared to trip over a curb and yelled for a medic.

Said he realized there was no established EMT presence.

Said he and a friend decided they were going to offer their services voluntarily because of this

"We weren't going to be actively participating in any of the demonstrations"

Said it's an ethics code that they don't pick a side as medics.

Binger asks Grosskreutz how many times he was out there providing medical care at these demonstrations.

He said about 75 days prior to the incident in August.

Defense objected to the question but it was overruled.

Binger said it's relevant, and contrasts him and Rittenhouse

Grosskreutz said he was working his normal job the day he came down to Kenosha on August 25, 2020.

"we're all aware of what was happening after the Jacob Blake shooting...but given the chaotic situation...there was certainly a propensity for violence and injuries in general."

Said that night he brought his own supplies. A tourniquet, quick clot, chest wound seals, gloves, saline spray.

Binger asks Grosskreutz if he was armed.

Grosskreutz said he believes in the 2A, said that day was no different than any other day. Said he had a permit that not not renewed when he was carrying it on August 25, 2020.

Said he parked several blocks away for safety and to protect his property, put his supplies and gun on him, and walked toward the courthouse.

"There was already confrontation" between demonstration and police.

Said he almost immediately came upon a person who was affected by pepper spray and started treating that person.

Binger asks what the most critical situation was that he responded to -- said someone young who was shot with a rubber bullet and had a cut.

"Whatever hit her had some force behind it."

Binger showing the jury an exhibit now.

The video being shown is of Grosskreutz helping someone on the ground.

He said it's him and several people he doesn't know, treating that person who had a cut on their elbow from the rubber bullet.

This was across the street across the square from the courthouse.

This is a newspaper article with a photo of Grosskreutz helping that person — shown to the jury as well

Grosskreutz said he was also recording that night and live streaming on Facebook.

He said he's also an ACLU legal observer.

Grosskreutz said he remembers the first time he saw #KyleRittenhouse the night of Aug. 25.

Said RIttenhouse was offering medical assistance to someone and they were carried onto Car Source property.

Grosskreutz said he did not see Rittenhouse actually provide medical to that person.

This was my same observation. Grosskreutz makes it a point to address the jury as he's answering questions from ADA Binger

https://twitter.com/JulieCourtTV/status/1457739511467843586

We're not seeing part of the live stream video from Grosskreutz.

You can hear people yelling at the armed men at Car Source, including Ryan Balch.

Someone is yelling "protect your property, not the streets" at those men.

Binger is asking if Grosskreutz knew Joseph Rosenbaum or if he recalls seeing him that evening.

Grosskreutz said no. Said he doesn't recall anyone making a threat to anyone at Car Source if they got them alone, they'd kill them.

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This should say "we are now" instead of "we are not."

Typo.

Grosskreutz now recalling what Rittenhouse was wearing, Binger asks if he saw Rittenhouse wearing gloves -- he's explaining how those gloves are good at keeping fluids off of the hands.

Said it's not proper hygiene to keep the same gloves on.

Grosskreutz said he headed down 59th, and made his way toward the Ultimate Gas Station, he was still wearing his Paramedic hat on it.

No one approached or asked for help, and then said he heard gun shots.

Said he saw people running and heard people yell medic.

Said he started running south toward where he believed the shooting happened.

He's pointing out on the map where he was to the jury, and where he ended up reaching after the gunshots.

Said he saw people running up Sheridan, but then started to hear people yelling someone had been shot.

"It was there, while I was live streaming, I had contact with the defendant."

Showing video now.

In the video you hear the gunshots, Grosskreutz explaining where he is at the moment, and notes the gunshots.

You hear people yelling and Grosskreutz starts running toward the scene.

Here’s the part of the live stream where Grosskreutz runs into Rittenhouse

Grosskreutz: At the time I thought the defendant said he was working with the police, I didn’t do anything .

Said now that he’s reviewed the video, he said “I’m going to the police.” “I didn’t do anything is what I make out. It’s hard to hear from the muffling."

Grosskreutz said it was odd that he thought Rittenhouse said he was working with police, but said earlier in the night, he had heard Ryan Balch discussing a plan they had with police, that police were going to push the protesters down Sheridan past the Car Source lot.

Grosskreutz: "Balch explained there was some sort of understanding or plan, up to the militia members as they refer to themselves, to deal with them."

#RittenhouseTrial

Video shows Grosskreutz jog with Rittenhouse for a while, but then he turns back and splits away from him.

"You hear me asks who is shot. At that moment, the only thing I was concerned about was finding who had been shot."

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Said he then turned around and started running in the direction Rittenhouse was headed, as more people pointed out that Rittenhouse had just shot someone.

"I thought that the defendant was an active shooter."

Said any time there is a firearm in the situation, stakes are higher

Grosskreutz now being shown the video just before he gets shot by Rittenhouse.

Said at this moment, Grosskreutz said at some point, he pulled his gun out from his back.

"In the moment, I thought the defendant was an active shooter."

Said he had heard more gunshots, and saw someone jump over the defendant, and then another person use a skateboard to hit the defendant.

Binger asks Grosskreutz if he was intending to use his gun --

G: "If i had to. I didn't draw my firearm with the express intent" to use it, but was ready if he needed to.

Binger asks if Grosskreutz saw Rittenhouse fire shots and shoot Anthony Huber in the chest. Asks what he was holding.

Grosskreuts said in one hand was his gun, the other his phone.

Binger: What was going through your head at this moment?

"That I was going to die"

Asks why he put his hands up. Grosskreutz said he had just saw Huber get shot

"I was very close to the defendant, and I thought there was a high likelihood I would get shot myself."

They pause the video and Binger asks if Rittenhouse is pointing the AR-15 at him, Grosskreutz said yes.

After he put his hands up, Grosskreutz said Rittenhouse re-racked his gun.

"After he pointed his rifle at me, I put my hands up" and he re-racked.

Binger: What did you think was going to happen?

"Re-racking the weapon, in my mind, meant the defendant wasn't accepting my surrender"

Felt the defendant was going to shoot again.

"I felt I had to do something to prevent myself from being shot...or killed."

So he decided the best course of action was to close the distance.

Said he never had an opportunity.

"Was never trying to kill the defendant. In that moment I was trying to preserve my own life."

Binger: After seeing Rittenhouse shoot at one person at close range twice, Huber in the chest once, and being told by people in the crowd he already shot another... why didn't you take your own gun and shoot the defendant first.

"That's not the kind of person I am."

"That's not who I am and definitely not somebody I'd want to become."

- Grosskreutz.

Binger now asks where Grosskreutz was hit by Rittenhouse's shot.

Grosskreutz: "I effectively lost a majority of my right bicep."

Jury now being shown a photo -- "this is very graphic."

The picture is Grosskreutz with his wound, a bloody arm, still holding his gun.

He testifies he never shot his gun that night.

Now seeing another picture, more graphic, showing the severity of the wound.

In the photo you see Grosskreutz, Jason Lackowski, and Ryan Balch in the photo, another person is applying a tourniquet.

G said he and Lachowski were instructing the other how to apply the tourniquet.

Now the jury is seeing video. Oh wow is this video graphic. Appears to show Grosskreutz' bone.

Court is now taking a break.

Court is resuming -- they're discussing when lunch is going to be delivered. Prosecution wants a 12-1 break today, but the judge said the food is warm and he doesn't want jurors to wait too long for break after it's delivered.

Testimony from Gaige Grosskreutz has resumed.

He's explaining how his wound was still bleeding with the first tourniquet, and had asked for another to stop the bleeding.

Now describing what he remembers from arriving at the hospital.

The first hospital said they needed to send him somewhere else -- said he rode in an ambulance, which was about 5 minutes.

From there he said he was supposed to be treated there, but would needed to be life flighted to Froedert in Milwaukee.

Said went he first arrived, he was taken to trauma room, and was prepped for surgery called -- which is a very deep cleaning of the wound to scrape away the dead tissue.

Said he doesn't believe he had other surgeries in the early morning, said he was in the ICU a few rooms away from Jacob Blake -- who's shooting by police sparked these protests in Kenosha.

Said the first surgery to try to repair his arm was the following Monday.

Said he was in hospital for a week for emergency care, then several months of physical therapy.

Grosskruetz said he had a spent teargas canister on him that he had picked up on the street - which they just showed to the jury.

He said he found that 50 feet away from the 59t street Car Source. It was not capable of doing further harm

Said he doesn't know why he picked it up.

"I don't have an answer for that."

Said police came to talk to him in hospital, and he signed a release for them to obtain medical records.

Also said he gave police a statement, and had explained he was recording the video on Facebook live stream, not physically on his phone.

It was stored on his Facebook page.

Said he was concerned about his own personal safety ...

"After the events, it was made known to me that people online and in person..."

Defense objects on hearsay, prosecution said it is state of mind for cooperation.

Judge is thinking.

Binger said a detective has already questioned Grosskreutz' credibility.

Judge said he's not going to allow the evidence as proof of what he saw, but proof of what was happening in his mind based on info he heared

Grosskreutz said people were making threats, going above just personal opinion and were outside his family members' homes.

"It became very concerning for me."

Grosskreutz said he was willing to turn over everything on his phone. Said it never happened.

At the time he said he didn't know why, but said he never personally refused to turn over everything on his phone.

"I never personally refused that, no."

#RittenhouseTrial

He's shown a document, saying it is an official form for informed consent to disclose personal property and records from the Kenosha PD and District Attorney.

This was for the medical records access.

Grosskreutz said he still has issues with his arm, said muscle doesn't grow back.

"I do have a neurological deficit on my arm."

Said he's unable to feel from his bicep through top of his forearm through right thumb.

Has a tattoo on that arm that has "Do no harm" in a banner with the medical staff with the snake wrapped around it.

Underneath is another banner that said "Do Know Harm"

Cross examination now from Corey Chirafisi.

Chirafisi asks if he remembers saying that at some point his belt with his glock fell off his waist.

Grosskreutz said he doesn't recall. Chirafisi showing a document.

Chirafisi asks if that's a lie, G said no.

Chirafisi asks Grosskreutz if he told multiple officers.

Grosskreutz said no, but his statement said he did.

Chirafisi asks if he was chasing Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz said no.

Chirafisi asking if he's a member of the People's Revolution or the Wisconsin Revolution.

Said he has spoken at one event, but is not a member. Has said "long live the revolution" and members are in the courtroom today

Chirafisi shows Grosskreutz a notice of claim telling the city he wants $10 million.

"Are you aware in this document you never mention you actually possessed a firearm. You left that part out. Is that correct?"

"That is correct."

Chirafisi is asking about another document where Grosskreutz failed to mention he had a firearm when he was shot.

"If Rittenhouse is convicted, your chance at getting $10 million bucks is better"

Grosskreutz said he doesn't know how all of that works.

Chirafisi now shohwing video that was live streamed by Grosskreutz

"You can go home you f*cking stooge."

- Grosskreutz says as he's recording, shortly after you hear Rittenhouse ask if anyone needs a medic.

Video shows Rittenhouse pulling a dumpster out of the road. Someone yells at Rittenhouse it's not his job to do that. Rittenhouse doesn't react or threaten that person, the defense argues.

Chirafisi asking if it's unlawful for him to carry his gun concealed because he didn't have a CCW permit. He said he did have one, wasn't aware it was expired

Chirafisi asking what Rittenhouse said to him that night, where Rittenhouse said he's going to the police.

Chirafisi asking what Grosskreutz about the comments Rittenhouse made to him after shooting Rosenbaum.

Asking now about when he pulls out his own firearm.

Said he did not chase Rittenhouse despite following Rittenhouse.

Acknowledges that he heard "Get him" and "Get his ass"

Does not remember hearing "Cranium that boy."

Said more people are joining what Chirafisi called 'the mob' to chase Rittenhouse

Chirafisi is asking about 'jump kick man.'

Grosskreutz said he did not see jump kick man kick Rittenhouse in the face, doesn't recall how far away he was at this point, but said he was close.

Said he had concern Rittenhouse was in physical danger as he was being attacked

Chirafisi shows a picture of jump kick man.

Now working to show another picture, this time of Anthony Huber striking Rittenhouse with his skateboard.

"Anytime that there's a risk of head trauma, that's a risk."

Grosskreutz believed Rittenhouse was in danger of being seriously hurt, which is 'in part' why e wanted to intervene.

Chirafisi asks about a statement where he told police he told Huber to stop hitting him.

Grosskreutz said with the benefit of hindsight, that isn't true. Said he didn't say that to Huber.

"I'd just gotten out of surgery. I had just been sedated. It wouldn't have been a purposeful omission" in regards to him not telling he was carrying a firearm

Chirafisi argues he wasn't drugged too much to not answer questions about Rittenhouse's clothing, and omitting what he does for a living to that officer.

Grosskreutz said the traumatic experience and medication led to him to forget to tell police he had a gun and dropped it.

Chirafisi asking about G's second statement about what had happened. Asks if he had viewed some of the video.

G said he can't say for sure but assumes he had by that point.

Chirafisi asks why Grosskreutz refused to answer questions about the shooting with the lead detective. Grosskreutz said that was based on advice from his attorney.

Asks about searching his phone -- Grosskreutz said he never turned it over. Said he was never aware there was a search warrant.

Now we're seeing video again of the Huber/Grosskreutz shooting and what lead to it.

Chirafisi going almost frame by frame asking Grosskreutz about the gunshots heard from Rittenhouse.

Now we're seeing Grosskreutz having his hands up.

Grosskreutz agrees that moments later, he dropped his hands and moves toward Rittenhouse again.

C: At this point you're holding a loaded gun, advancing on Rittenhouse who is seated on his butt. You're moving forward and the gun is directed at Rittenhouse.

Chirafisi showing Grosskreutz a photograph, which is grainy, but Grosskreutz acknowledges that he is pointing his gun at Rittenhouse.

Said at the time his bicep is "being vaporized" his gun his pointed at Rittenhouse.

Chirafisi now asking about the comment Grosskreutz testified about earlier, saying Rittenhouse was re-racking.

Chirafisi bringing up a tweet from this past Saturday — picture below

Chirafisi: You said you were looking for a non lethal way to handle this, but you pointed your gun and chased Rittenhouse.

Grosskreutz said he has no regrets.

Chirafisi asking about Grosskreutz' former roommate, and a picture they took together in the hospital.

There is something the judge wants to clarify with attorneys.

Chirafisi said he has a few more questions.

But they're taking lunch break until about 1:15.

The judge is asking about something written in that post.

The roommate was sitting in court today, he was served with a subpoena to appear Wednesday, and he's no longer in the courtroom.

The state objected to showing the photo as hearsay about something his roommate stated in the post.

Judge said there is a 'coiled snake' of potential hearsay, so they have to be careful.

The jury won't see that post right now, as it's hearsay

Now it's lunchtime.