Thread by @hamsanandi

Aha ;-) Whata flowery language. #justsaying

I wonder who the audience for the book are. "loud rituals", "pouring clarified butter into flames" "pecking order" "political power".hmm.
Such rituals exist even today-political or non political, including clarified butter or not. Suffice to say nothing specific to Kings. #AKST

Wonder if the writer has seen anything abt temples of Talakadu, hundreds of years before Chalukyas.
If temporary altars are expensive & difficult undertakings even for kings, were structural and permanent temples a cheaper alternative? Need comnon sense before writing!
#AKST

Book dwells on "foreign" priests. What and who is foreign? A person from Banavasi built a Chaitya at Karla, few hundereds years before this event. Now was that trader foreign? BTW, even Jaina and Buddhist traditions were "foriegn", going by the hair-splitting logic. #AKST

1. Pulikeshi I being a "petty agricultural chief" is a hypothesis,not an established fact.He might have been one as well as not.
2. Kadambas ruled not much earlier & their capital was a big trading center-So why should Malaprabha valley be "totally new to these concepts"? #AKST

Extension of the cock-and-bull stories that you find in NCERT and Karnataka textbooks. Feeding all the "agricultural produce into sacrificial flames" eh? Definitely common sense is most uncommon. #AKST
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Even those who do not "throw produce into flames" followed other rituals like sacrificing animals/birds.
But no one sacrifices all their livestock. Similarly, no one pours all agricultural produce to sacrificial flames.
But sure,the author wants you to get that idea ;-) 2/2

If it reads like some conspiracy theory, you are not mistaken.🤦‍♂️
This wasn't the first time such extension of spheres of influence was shown. Why did a trader from #Vaijayanti build a Chaitya at #Karla, 600 km away? Or why Ashoka put edicts at Brahmagiri, Karnataka? #AKST

Another conspiracy theory. Again, not based on facts, but on opinions ( or imaginations). Both Shiva and Vishnu temples predate Chalukyas. Is the author's primary goal seems to be to make Buddhism the most ancient? I have no idea. #AKST

#Pollock ism pefected.On on hand author says #Chalukya were agriculturalists(&hence implying they were not upper class-an assumption at best);at the same time saying they used language of intellectuals.
Q: Why would Kannada speakers listen to whatever if told in Samskrta? #AKST

How much of this is based on records? How much is conjencture?

I specifically request ..@gurichopra @brakoo @swamin400 to comment on this page, based on your direct learning. 🙏

Wow!Such length to describe bhaktas, devotees going to a festival/a jatre? "local cultivators and pastoralists gathering to participate in a community ceremony" apparently. #AKST 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Badami to Hampi is < 150km. Why whould a king fake control, when the area was under him anyway?

Throw the dreaded B and the C word.
Even before Chalukyas Brahmanas ventured into trade. BTW, when the "pastoral & agriculturist" Chalukyas could become kings, what's wrong with some Brahmanas to own land, and become traders;-) #AKST
*Setti means a merchant, by profession

ಲೋಕಪಾಲೇಶ್ವರ लोकपालेश्वर = "Lord of Directions" ?

In what language?

.cc @shankarrajaram1 😱

Where was elitism in this? So many misconceptionsm, unfortunately. The text describes what's found in the world, imo.

While it is called अन्तःपुर, imo, it should not be translated as "Inner City". #AKST

2 things that I'd not I read in any book about Chalukyas
1) Temple by Lokamahadevi not surviving today ( But everything I read so far points to the #Virupaksha temple in #Pattadakallu being built under her sponsorship)
2)Vijaya coming from a courtesan background
.cc @hsraghav

Feeding statements are "perhaps", but result conclusive.

Did he go back in time and see temple building was a publicity stunt?

A fiction writer can be permitted to write anything, but not a 'claimed' historian. 🤦‍♂️ #AKST

It is fine to imagine anything if you are a fiction writer. I have great respect to K V Ayyar, Tarasu etc who have done this fabulously.

Just that one shouldn't be termed a "historian" if they are continuously in the "imagining" mode. #Chalukya #Rashtrakuta

#AKST

"goddess of the ancient forest tribes"

#AKST .cc @hsraghav

One can probably say anything and pass it off as art-criticism, history and what not. 🤦‍♂️

This is how many literary criticisms also sound like, seeing the imagery that doesn't even exist!

About #Dashavatara cave #Dantidurga #AKST

What a pathetic way to describe temple building 🤦‍♂️. The whole book is filled with such negativity about temples.

The descriptions of cities in medival India are described in many inscriptions and in literary works. Why speculate? This isn't even a fiction piece. #AKST

The author has a "Tamilakam" fixation - Or a reason to show it as a "separate nation" - Who knows, he may be a RaGa fan ;-)
The point is if one refers to "South Karnataka" insted of Gangavadi then they can refer to "Tamil Nadu" imo (Current state names) #AKST

Question is to whom the meaning of "tammaTa" is not clear ;-) #Panchavadya #ತಮ್ಮಟ #ತಮಟೆ #ಜಯಘಂಟೆ #ಜಾಗಟೆ #ಪಂಚವಾದ್ಯ

Only if authors stop referring to English books only and claim "meaning is unclear"! #justsaying #AKST

.cc @a_srinidhi @ShrikaanthK

#Chalukya #Rashtrakuta