@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 There are many inscriptions where a king boasts destroying another king's capital - as far as I know, instances of destroying temples don't find a mention. Even when the inscriptions say "having burnt the town of xxx " , it is likely to be a literary figurative speak imo. 1/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 I can cite some inscriptions of Chalukyas and Pallavas but will have to look up, to prove the above point. On the other hand , there are indications where the king who won the enemy's capital, actually made grants to the temples there, for further upkeep and improvements 2/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 A famous example is the Chalukya inscriptions at the Rajasimhheshwara temple in Kanchi, after they won over the Pallavas. And why this temple was chosen, out of the many, many temples Kanchipuram had? Perhaps because it carried the name of the king Rajasimha - is my guess 3/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 So after winning against the opponent, what is better than showing superiority in making a grant, getting an inscription installed at the temple carrying the opponent's name? That must have been the logic. 4/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 In this case, Chalukyas went even a step further - They built the main temples at Pattadakallu based on the model/plan of Rajasimha temple in Kanchi. That shows plundering temples of the opponents was NOT a model of Indian kings until those from the West of Sindhu arrived. 5/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 There are cases where the deity of a temple was supposed to have been carried away (in a figurative way to carry away the luck of the opponent). A famous example is the Ganapati from Badami ( Vatapi) which is said to have been taken from there when Pallavas invaded Chalukyas. 6/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 In such cases, the deity was given befitting temple -It isn't clear if the Ganapati at Vatapi is at Tiruvarur or Tiruchengattangudi, because both of them are being called Vatapi Ganapati. It is likely one of them was made as a replica. In either case the deity was venerated. 7/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 I have heard/read the Krishna vigraha in the Krishna temple in Hampi, came from Orissa, in a similar manner - but I am not very certain ( This mUrti is in the museum in Egmore, Madrasa now, if I am right).
Regarding the Marathas attack on Sringeri - I do not know all details 8/n
@KannadathiVidya@LeviAckerman119@Djain87823794 Marathas attacked Sringeri but I don't think they destroyed temples; Vidya Shankara temple is standing there from 14th C. Sharada temple is newer but probably was built replacing the older woodern temple (typical of Malnad).
Equating them with Aurangzeb & co is unfounded 9/9 #END
Why academicians don't do basic check & cross their ts and dot the is?😱. Here's a video of a professor from IIM, who hypothesizes river Ghaggar shouldn't be identified with Saraswati, based on a faulty translation & suspects Vedic hymn is changed! 1/3
One should look at the sources in original & not in translations. RigVeda text is available for all to check! Second, a word in a verse, confirming to a meter can't be randomly changed to something else without breaking the meter & Veda was never subject to change :-) 2/3
I wish people know this before making random allegations in the name of research😳.
Veda are called Sruti;They were not written down for millennia, because preserving them though sound was considered the best way to keep them intact, than to allow them to error prone writing. 3/3
@csmspeak@vschanna Thanks for prompting me to take a look!Here #PundarikaVItthala (a contemporary of Tansen) specifically lists Parasika ragas. He says Rahai, born of dEvagAndhAra, Nishabara in KanaDa , Mahur in sAranga, Suha in Kedara etc-clearly indicating KAnada not of pArasIka origin/influence
Here both shines were Shiva temples. There could be multiple reasons - Nagareswara for being the personal temple where the Kings worshipped was targeted first, and before they finished the job the Hoysala troups were able to guard Hoysaleshara? Your guess is as good as mine.
But the point is so called sahitis from Karnataka have normalized these to based on some random paper by one prof in Columbia. This is due to the white-skin-infliction. Where is thinking power when we need it?
Sorry to say the same trend in the latest historical novel as well.
@karatalaamalaka I think the language families in India can be explained by multiple migrations in prehistoric times; By historic times ( i.e. earliest archeological remains are at Mehrgarh, IIRC - which are 9000 years ago) - the two families had already settled in with some intermingling
@karatalaamalaka The due-east-Krittikas description put parts of the Veda at least around ~3000 BCE. the 1500- 600 BCE span as imaginged by Max Mueller must go back by at least 1500 years imo.
We have Vedanga Jyotisha corresponding to the sky situation ~1400 BCE (give or take a century)
@karatalaamalaka And VJ was NOT written outside of Saptasindhu - Very likely at the upper reaches of it like in Kashmira or in around Kubha river (Kabul) by the latitude indication. Definitely not much north or south of that location.
While reading works of #Shamba etc, we shouldn't forget their thoughts were clouded by colonial narratives. I find very strange and odd, fell for the black-white racist theories as well. The names like ಕಾಳವ್ವ, ಕರಿಯಪ್ಪ aren't specific to Kannada. Didn't we have काली & कृष्ण ?
How the bias does show up in #Shamba's writing. We should not forget a writer is product of their times.
Very clear #Shamba has totally fallen for the Dravida-Arya racist theories of the 18th-19th centuries.
Remember some podcast where doubts were cast about Kautalya's authorship of #Arthashastra, because of the "Kautalya says" quotes in there.
But that is the way of Samskrta/Bharatiya/Indian texts till much later. Here is a text from ~1650, of #MummaDiChikkaBhupala of such self-ref