Why Zeus doesn’t cheat on Hera (a #ClassicsTwitter thread 🧵) 1/19
I’ll explain:
First things first, this thread is not a defense of Zeus. In service of understanding Greco-Roman myth a bit better, however, it may be helpful to reframe this conversation so we understand why the ancients feel comfortable depicting their chief god this way.
2/19
Obviously Zeus is famous for his *many* (usually non-consensual) sexual encounters with women who aren’t his wife, Hera. In meme culture in particular, he’s usually contrasted with his “faithful,” often maligned, brother Hades, who “wouldn’t dare cheat on his Persephone.” 3/19
(This comparison is tricky for a number of reasons I won’t explore here. I’ll just focus on the “fidelity” aspect) 4/19
When you say someone is “cheating,” you’re saying that they’ve entered into some kind of relationship agreement that binds both parties to be sexually exclusive with each other and that having sex with another person is a violation of that mutual agreement. 5/19
This is not how ancient marriage works:
Women don’t have the right to sexual exclusivity from their husbands. Adultery, in its original sense, is women sleeping with men who aren’t their husbands and men sleeping with *other men’s wives,* regardless of their marital status. 6/19
This is true in the Bible too—that’s why David can have as many wives and concubines as he wants but becomes an adulterer after he sleeps with Bathsheba, Uriah’s wife. The idea that men’s “fidelity” is about sexual restraint and not financial support is modern. 7/19
Why doesn’t Zeus cheat on Hera? Because he *can’t* cheat on Hera. 8/19
This is because marriage is, in this context, not fundamentally about emotional commitment to another individual. It’s a property law really. Men have the right to the sexual status of the women in their household. Husbands have it over wives, and fathers over daughters. 9/19
With husbands, the idea is that since there is no sure-fire way of judging paternity, a woman’s sexual fidelity is the only way to ensure that the man is giving his name and property to children that are his. 10/19
In the case of patriarchs, if the sexual status is violated, the perpetrating man has to pay damages (Exodus 22:17). 11/19
Zeus clearly does commit adultery under this definition too, but the grievance for the adultery does not lie with Hera, it lies with the husbands and fathers of the women he sleeps with. 12/19
Essentially, although in modern contexts, adultery and cheating are synonymous in marital relationships, the Greeks and Romans have a radically different concept of the former and no concept of the latter. 13/19
Thinking of it this way, a lot of mythology makes more sense: why is the Odyssey obsessed with Penelope not sleeping with the suitors, while Odysseus spends years sleeping with other women? Why does Hera go after women and their children instead of her “cheating” husband? 14/19
Well the answer is simple, neither Odysseus nor Zeus—from the Greek perspective—did anything wrong. Hera’s going after the mortals because they’re easy targets. 15/19
There are, however, reasons a wife might get mad that her husband is sleeping around. If he is spending time and money on another woman and her children, that is time and money not spent on the “proper” family. 16/19
Also, should the husband decide to leave his wife and marry another sexual partner and legitimize her children, that woman would be exposed to many dangers, physical and socioeconomic. 17/19
In modern contexts, when we mention “monogamy,” we focus on the “mono” part, that you only have “one” partner. But the ancients focused on the “gam”—you can only have one “marriage.”
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To be clear, this is SUPER fucked up. It is clearly the ultimate construct of deeply patriarchal societies that care little about women’s subjectivity. But it is good to remind ourselves how different the ancients were from us. (End)
Sorry if you saw an earlier version of this thread. I realized I could do the topic more justice and took it down. Hopefully this one is clearer and more engaging
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Was Cerberus a Good Boy?
A thread on Monsters, Dogs, and Myth
Above is Cerberus. At least, as Dante saw him. Here, the later poet William Blake illustrates a scene from his Inferno. The entrance to the third layer of Hell, where the dog stands guard (Inf. 6.13-33); a reference, in turn, to the work of Vergil before him (Aen. 6.417-9).
Each author, building on the last, paints a monster more violent and grotesque. After two millennia of collaboration, the result is truly terrifying.
So yesterday, I shared this meme to the page, clearly insinuating that the Roman Empire was an evil construct that brought devastation to many different peoples and over a long period of time (if we take the dates of 753 BCE-476 CE, 1,229 years).
Medusa in the Labyrinth - a look at @ChloeBailey's #HAVEMERCY ahead of her VMA solo debut tonight:
BLACK POP STARS AND CLASSICAL ICONOGRAPHY
Ѱ here, I would like to take a moment to acknowledge how much Black classicisms in the visual arts we've gotten this year through the music videos of Black pop stars. Chlöe's newest video continues in a tradition of videos styled…
...this year in terms of different classical myths, stories, and icons. Kicking off the year back in February, @FKAtwigs released "Don't Judge Me", choreographing bodies around Kara Walker's "Fons Americana". In April came @LilNasX's "MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name)"...
First of all, I love the ways that Lizzo challenges a lot of our ideas around classical iconography via imagining herself in the world--having the statues reflect her body type, and seeing her own stories and rumors displayed through classical art forms:
She also has such an interesting color palette for this video particularly with these bright amphorae, and I know I'm not the only one thinking that she might be displaying herself among these other goddesses as a potential audition for the upcoming live-action "Hercules" film.
It has come to my attention that the online articles on the weirdest classical myths are totally insufficient. Since it’s been a while since we’ve done a thread, I’m giving a list of 10 of my wildest, most disturbing or confusing Greco-Roman myths. #mythology#ClassicsTwitter. 🧵
(CW: literally everything bad you can expect from myth, inc*st, SA, just gross stuff)
1. A different “King’s Disease”: Minos, the king of Crete from the Minotaur story, at one point was cursed to ejaculate spiders, scorpions, and snakes that would devour his sexual partners from the vagina out. He sought the aid of Procris, whom he promised an infallible spear and