Thread by @JoeAgneya

Look at these various names carefully!
They will tell you a secret.. a story..
Elephant- Sanskrit íbha, Mycenean erepa, Greek el-éphas, Latin ebur, Hittite laḫpa. and Slavic velibodŭ,
Ape- Sanskrit Kapi, Greek kēpos, Germanic api, Irish apa, Welsh epa and Slavic opica.

They tell you that wherever the common ancestors of the Indians, Greeks, Romans, Teutons, Celts, Hittites & Slavs came from, there were also elephants & apes
So what?- You may ask
Problem is- there's only 2 places on earth like that-
Africa
And India 😙

https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/936354401035337728

There is no way for the AIT/AMT proponents to outmaneuver this simple yet potent evidence of fauna names. No beating around this bush! All animal names preserved in the IE branches are species native to India, and some like the ape are to be found meaningfully ONLY in India.

What is particularly amazing is how the Irish people, isolated on an island across the sea, remembered the name of an animal with which they had no contact for thousands of years since they left their original home... wow.

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There are of course, many more animals to be compared thus-

The tiger: Sanskrit vyāghra-, Iranian babr, and Armenian vagr

The leopard: Sanskrit pṛdāku, Greek pardos, Iranian fars-, and Hittite paršana

But these animals are argument-neutral, widely distributed & thus unhelpful

A remarkable proposal by the scholar Igor A. Tonoyan-Belyayev about the mechanics of various Indo-European branches separating & spreading FROM South Asia INTO Central Asia, Europe & the middle east during the early & Mature Harappan eras.

Read & enjoy.
academia.edu/37026878/A_not…

Did you know?

The ancestors of the Vedics, Greeks, Iranians, Romans, Germanic tribes, Celts, Slavic, Baltics etc once worshipped the same set of Gods.

When they broke away from each other around 6000 years ago, the names of their gods mutated- becoming almost unrecognizable

But ONE of them preserved the original vocabulary, names of gods etc with little or late borrowing from other cultures. All other branches show heavy inflow of loan words from languages like Uralic, Semitic, Old European etc

This branch also has the OLDEST literature of them all

That branch is Vedic. And the above fact shows that it has migrated the LEAST from the original homeland. The more you migrate, the more influences you absorb from outside.

Only with the help of Vedic could colonial linguists compare the highly mutated gods of other branches.

For example, the Norse gods Vanir are related to Greek Hermes & Pan. But you can't connect them, unless you individually compare them to Vedic Saramā & Paṇi, explained in Rigveda in X.108 & Jaiminīya Brāhmaṇa (II.440-442)

Norse & Greek, by themselves, are impossible to connect

The linguists cooking up AIT knew this crucial fact very well. They couldn't explain it, so they simply swept it under the carpet. One of them(McDonel) admitted this-

"Vedic gods are closer to the physical phenomena they represent, than the gods of any other IE mythology"

Enough of that! Let us start with the basics.

What generic words did they use for 'God' in most ancient times?
Ans- 'Asura, Deva & Bhaga' - (In their Vedic forms at least)

How do we know that?
Because all the branches preserve at least one of these forms.

1. Deva
This most common(though not the oldest) Vedic term is found preserved in the following branches-

Latin deus
Avestan daeva(=demon)
Germanic tiw
Old Norse tivar
Slavic divu
Baltic diev-
Irish dia
Welsh duw

And the modern English 'deity', 'divine' etc by derivation

2. Asura- Most Indians would give it a -ve connotation. But in Early & pre Rig Vedic times, it was another word for 'God'

Statistically- Asura is used in a positive sense 59 times in the Rig Veda & only 12 times in a negative sense- that too only in late verses(Shendge 1947:49)

The stem as-u means 'Life'.

Asura, as a term for God, is preserved in the following branches-
Avestan Ahura
Norse Aesir , As-gard(city of gods)
Runic ansuR
Hittite hassu
Old Irish eissi

3. Bhaga- A Vedic deity of good fortune & fertility, also an Aditya. The RV does not use it as a word for 'God'. But modern Indians, ironically, use 'Bhagavan'.

It is seen preserved in-
Avestan Baga
Slavic Bogu
Lithuanian bog-
Greek Phoibos
Kassite Bugas
Phrygian Bagaios

What about the word 'God' itself?

It comes from Gothic gup & old high Gothic 'got'. They derive from proto-Germanic '*ghu-to-m' which is cognate with Vedic 'húta-m' - 'That which is invoked' or 'huta-m'- 'That which is sacrificed' (Buck 1949: A dictionary of selected synonyms)

When Vedic gods went west

Varuna- King of Asuras, in the highest heaven. Guardian of ṛta, laws of creation. Lord of the oceans
Greek Ouranos-Father of the old gods
Latin Uranus
Iranian-Varuna is one of 101 names of Ahura
Hittite Wurun
Mittani Uruwna
Baltic Velinas
Norse Ver=sea

But the other side does not have a SINGLE standing argument. Their 'substratum' argument has already been REFUTED.

Bhūrja (birch), pītu (pine) etc are NOT found in the Rig Veda. They appear ONLY in late vedic texts AFTER Vedic spread into Indus, Afgan etc

https://twitter.com/pramodnairx/status/1030082731944755201

All the trees in the Rig Veda are INDIAN species, not central Asian

Kimśuka(butea frondosa) & śalmali(salmalia malabarica)-For making chariot body
Khadira(acacia catechu) & śimśapā(dalbergia)-For chariot wheels
Araṭu(calosanthes indica)-For the axle
Aśvattha
Parṇa(holy palāśa)

When Vedic gods travelled west-

Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́ -'Sky father'. The great Asura almost forgotten even in the Rig Veda. Pṛthvī Mātā -'mother Earth' was his consort. Father of Indra, Agni, Aditya, Ushas etc

Greek Zeus patér

Latin Ju-piter, Deus

Hittite Siu-s

Germanic Tiwaz

When Vedic gods went west-

Agni- god of fire, conveyor of sacrificial homa to the gods
Slavic Ogon
Latin ignis
Lithuanian ugnis
Latvian uguns

Despite the importance of fire in Zoroastrianism, this Indo-European deity is not preserved in the Iranian Avesta.

When Vedic gods went west

Aryaman- Member of the oft invoked triad 'Mitra-Varuna-Aryaman'. Guardian of rta & social harmony.

Iranian Airyaman
Mycenaean Are-mene
Greek Ar-eu-s
Norse Irmin
Gaulish Celtic Ariomanus
Irish Celtic Eremon

Ref- N.D Kazanas "Indo-European Deities and the Rigveda"