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@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Here i got then, with the famout #bunyeybunyey hashtag, against @mujunaeem .The athiest, agnostics and the mockers and the ignorants, the @MixaanFaqih @JAkmedd and the @sirumeenaa of maldivian athiests and agnotic community treat hadeeth as equal to #bunyeybunyey. Lets see here

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne With the busy timing these days, let me take sometime to rant this over here right now. i find it hard to comment everywhere , and hence i try to focus more on the awareness perspective. the paradigm shift that could be brought about with the awareness is far more greater on both

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne sides. back and forth rubbish is not helping anyone. it would be more beneficial that we spend more time on academic discourses than to mock and shout out at each other over useless things. hence, i wish to add my comments about hadeeth here, that i think @mujunaeem thinks is

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne just #bunyeybunyey. We call is the sciences of hadeeth. Well here is a little awareness session to clear out your ignorancy, and a rant for the rest of you people. they mock at the 'science of hadeeth' and they reject that the sayings of prophet muhammad would not be

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne authentically reported to this date, to 2019 or even up until end of times. Well, lets take this little intro to ourselves. I sincerly think, muju has never read a book on hadeeth. we dont make claims and judgements on things we are ignorant of.. Muju tell me if you read on this?

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne have you read a book on islamic perspective of what hadeeth is and how it is compiled?. it is only fair that one does little reading into these areas. Just because i dont like subjective morality does not mean i should not read on it. i should read and learn on the reasons.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne as to why subjective morality is unlivable. then only i would be able to concluisvely comment on such things. So, again what is it that you have read on hadeeth? Hadith compilation is one of the most caucious affairs of the muslims..Since, muslims knew the sayings of the prophet

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne are binding upon them, they kept great care to record it, and bring it from generations to generations. The era of the sahaba were the most knowledgeable people and writing and storing them were a practice.this is an ongoing process for generations.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Transmission of hadeeth may be via teachers who taught what they knew as sayings from prophet, and this practice included dictating what is heard to each other, and to teacher, until correct memorization is done, or written in books that are kept by individuals.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne it can also be transmitted via students, comparing each other books.other methods include Ijazah and granting written books to students as they are, correspondance, Accouncement, bequest of books.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne independent to all this is the chain of narration, and how it is verified. This included checking the continuity of the chain of narrators, verifying their integrity, accuracy, conformity, hidden defect identification.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Whereever conflict exist, methods exist for resolution, harmonization, preferring, abrogation. Critical analysis of text, grading of hadeeth , ranking of hadeeth work of scholars and collections exist.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne While these topics are extensive, and specialities in islamic academics exist for these areas of expertise, how dare does the athiest and the agnostics or the exmuslims, conclude that hadeeth is just #bunyeybunyey? only an igrnorant would defy that the islamic principle for

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne hadeeth compliation, verification and categorization is #bunyeybunyey .

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne For example look at the following hadeeth research methodology:

Step One: List the narrators of the hadeeth and write down the key points from
their biographies as found in Taqreeb at Tah’theeb.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Step Two: If any narrator is classified as being da‘eef by any of the terms used in
class: 7-12, the hadeeth is automatically classified “Da’eef” and is rejected.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Step Three: The years in which they died should next be compared to make sure
that they all could have me each other. If no two narrators could have met each
other, the sanad is classified as “Munqati’” and the hadeeth itself is judged da‘eef
and rejected.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Step Four: The eras of the narrators should next be compared in order to
determine whether they all could have narrated from whom they claim to be
narrating from.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne If any narrator is found to be of an era that could not possibly
narrate from whom he claims to be narrating and is himself classified from the 5th
or 6th class of narrators, the hadeeth is then considered da‘eef and rejected.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne If the
narrator is from the 4th class or above, a further check should be made to see if
this was an exception, and if not, it is then classified mursal and put aside as
possible support for other questionable narrations.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Step Five: If the chain of narrators appears to be continuous and any of thenarrators are from classes 4 to 6, the hadeeth is then classified as hasan and canbe used as proof to establish a point of Islaamic law which must be recognized asa valid part of Sharee’ah.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Step Six: If the chains of narrators are all from classes: 1 to 3, the hadeeth is thenclassified as saheeh and is given precedence over any hadeeth hasan which contradicts it.

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne Step Seven: Check for other narrations of the hadeeth and research its chain as apossible support to elevate the hadeeth from da‘eef to hasan li ghayrih or fromhasan li thaatih to saheeh li thaatih

@MixaanFaqih @murtadfitry @mujunaeem @JAkmedd @blu3Greenalgae @iruvayani @bodualee @allah6988 @mardoohkalaange @ZamZamFarish @AreyougoneMAD1 @noseculars @sirumeenaa @DhivehiOne brother sheikh @ZamZamFarish , please do eloborate further too..

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