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Aug 14, 2019 11 tweets 4 min read Read on X
1/ Today marks my 18 month-aversary since beginning the #LCCholesterolChallenge cholesterolcode.com/lccholesterolc… and exactly a year ago adding #LDLBounty to meet the challenge. To date, I've only found studies showing the opposite -> High LDL+High HDL+Low TG = Low cardiovascular disease..
2/ The reason I say "best study" in the challenge instead of "any study" is that I thought it may well be possible there were tens if not hundreds of studies that might meet the definition. Again, I've only found the opposite, like this one: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27166203
3/ The colored overlays are mine, to emphasize this "triad" of high LDL, high HDL, and low triglycerides...
4/ And this one ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11176761 with the highly viral graph here...
5/ Where they first stratified between those with an LDL of < 170 and LDL ≥ 170, then substratified three groups of high HDL+low TG, low HDL+high TG, and one in between.
6/ As it happens, the reverse of this triad already has a name in the literature, "Atherogenic Dyslipidemia", which is characterized by low HDL, high TG, and a preponderance of small dense LDL particles. It is has an extremely high association with cardiovascular disease...
7/ It's worth reminding everyone as to why I set up the challenge in the first place. I didn't pick these markers out of a hat, they are extremely relevant to the Lipid Energy Model we're working on at CC, which is central to my research and experiments. CholesterolCode.com/model
8/ I hypothesize high LDL, high HDL, and low TG generally suggests a healthy lipid metabolism. (Again, that's generally, not always) And if so, I suspect that's highly relevant to cardiovascular disease outcomes and especially all cause mortality.
9/ Getting a hold of NHANES was a game changer, as it helped to provide further evidence for this hypothesis, though with all the usual caveats that should be applied to observational data.
10/ Which brings me back to the #LCCholesterolChallenge. I'm now more skeptical than I've been before that it will be met. The bigger question is whether this will apply to those with *very* extraordinary levels of the triad, and by that I mean #LMHRs CholesterolCode.com/lmhr
11/ While I'm cautiously optimistic, I certainly emphasize that only real, clinical trial data will provide strong evidence. This is why I'm working very hard to make that happen as soon as possible.

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May 21, 2023
1/🧵 If Plaque #ApoB-48 > #ApoB-100

Quite a rabbit hole so far...

First, let me say that data on this has been a bit limited. But *IF* we do ultimately confirm there are more ApoB-48 (B48) than ApoB-100 (B100) in ASCVD plaque, it would be a very big deal.

Let's unpack... Image
2/ First, thanks to @TuckerGoodrich for pinging me on these pubs and pressing the discussion.

But also credit to @CaloriesProper on tweeting this a couple years ago (I missed it then)

To understand why this would be so important if true, some review...
3/ B48 and B100s are the major proteins on chylomicrons (CMs) and VLDLs, respectively.

CMs mostly carry lipids from the small intestine to the bloodstream (lipids consumed), VLDL mostly carry lipids from storage; predominantly from adipose stores.

See full linages here 👇 Image
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Apr 14, 2023
1/ Chat on Triglyceride rich #LDL

#Me: Why would triglyceride rich LDL particles be more atherogenic than triglyceride poor LDL particles?

#ChatGPT: Triglyceride-rich LDL (low-density lipoprotein) particles are more atherogenic (i.e., more likely to contribute to the… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
2/

#Me: Couldn’t it also be possible that triglyceride rich LDL are ultimately the result of metabolic dysfunction and that better explains its association with atherosclerosis?

#ChatGPT: Yes, that is also a possibility. Triglyceride-rich LDL particles are often associated… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
3/

#Me: Is it possible that almost the entire amount of atherogenesis associated with high triglyceride rich LDL is due to dysfunctional lipid metabolism and the diseases that result in these profiles rather than the LDL particles themselves?

#ChatGPT: Yes, it is possible that… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
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Apr 13, 2023
1/🧵 I'm definitely a fan of both @DominicDAgosti2 and @DrRagnar (obviously), so I was excited to see them chatting about #lipids, #LMHRs, and Dom's consideration of increasing carbs to lower his #ApoB

If no one minds, I'd like to add some thoughts...

2/ First -- I'm extremely excited to share @DominicDAgosti2 may be the most notable N=1 I've waited for regarding #ResistanceTraining change & #LDL/#ApoB in a #ketogenetic context

Those who've followed me for a while know exactly what I'm talking about...
3/ When chatting with Dom in SD last year for dinner, he mentioned focusing less on maintaining such a sizable muscle mass as he typically does, and I predicted he'd likely see his LDL/ApoB as considerably higher with this change if still #keto. This podcast appears to confirm...
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Mar 24, 2023
🧵Followup on #salt comment last night:

Took 3 readings of my blood pressure this morning:
113/78
106/68
98/74
Average: 106/73

Context:
- Male, 49
- Moderate exercise
- Moderate-high stress career
- Supp 6-10g of salt daily when #keto* to relieve fatigue, cramping (for >5 yrs)
2/ So everyone on #keto should be like me and take copious amounts of #salt?

Well, sorry, but the answer appears to be:
👉 Your results may vary.... a lot.

On the little-to-no salt side, check out @KetoCarnivore's recent discussion on this
3/ Also check out this short video answer in a Q&A from Steve Phinney regarding salt intake research
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Mar 23, 2023
1/ #Metabolism, #lipids, and #ASCVD
#megathread🧵🧵🧵

Okay, I want to revisit and breakdown my position on this crucial topic and the challenges in communicating it.

⚠️ Get comfortable, as this could get long.

Ready? Let's go...
2/ First, it's worth reviewing why there's a high level of confidence low density lipoproteins (LDLs) drive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD)

For an excellent, lay-person video, I recommend @NutritionMadeS3's from a couple years ago 👇

3/ Also in the name of arguably the most cited meta-analysis for the Lipid Hypothesis to date:

"Low-density Lipoproteins cause atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease"

This meta combines lines from genetic, observational, and interventional studies.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28444290/
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Maybe. I hope so.

Let me just say a major problem with the #diet and #nutrition space is just how many sides seek to oversimplify these things.

And as unpopular as it is to say it, I think there's way too much focus of folks having extremely quick success as though it's common.
I know it's well intentioned.

But I also know many people in my own family who have struggled their whole lives to lose weight and assume if they don't have this near instant drop to their goal weight like <fill in the blank success story> then they are doing it all wrong...
... I can't tell you how many times I point out truly new, record-setting successes with people I know personally -- but it's their own record, their own health journey.

But they often can't see it because they hear they "won't be hungry anymore on <fill in blank diet>"...
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