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Aug 26, 2019 18 tweets 12 min read Read on X
This opinion piece by a few Ozzies is so full of contorted thinking & debunked logic it is worthy of a @Clive_Bates 13K word smack-down, but I expect he's busy on other things so I'll post some brief points.
@KielanMcalinden, S. Sohal, @sharmalabonline
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
"Maternal smoking and intrauterine exposure to tobacco smoke and nicotine have been linked.."
Nicely snuck #nicotine in there. Onya!
If U don't understand that CO and tar are largest source of harm from #tobacco #SMOKE then perhaps U should stay in the shallow end of the pool.
"These devices still deliver nicotine .."
You say that like it's a bad thing.
The evidence to support that needs to be balanced by evidence of healthful effects re Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, Dementia, ADHD, Schizophrenia..
"..and the rise in the number of dual users (of both traditional cigarettes and e-cigarettes) is alarming"
As is the number of ppl who used to #smoke but now don't, due to #TobaccoHarmReduction devices. Volume of sales of #cigarettes in Japan is in free-fall, #UK/#US also ↘️
"25% of high school seniors .. had vaped .. in the prior 30 days of being surveyed"
What, #teens are experimenting with things? 😲
Given the way .@TobaccoFreeKids .@truthinitiative are promoting them, it's a surprise there aren't more.
But it is habitual use that is more concerning & that remains at low levels & mostly involves former #SMOKING #youth (though @CDCTobaccoFree, @FDATobacco, @Surgeon_General etc. R loathe to admit that - to the point of delaying those figures while preaching the 'epidemic' mantra).
"Many countries are now waking up to the dangers of the flourishing e-cigarette market"
Let me #FTFY.
"Many countries are now waking up to the enormous health potential of the flourishing e-cigarette market"
"Concentrations of nicotine found in e-liquids have been found to vary from the labelled concentration .." ..in #Australia, where there are severe fines or JAIL sentences for supplying #nicotine 2 consumers.
(#FTFY)
Advertising this public service on the label would be insane.
"A single session of e-cigarette vaping has been shown to negatively affect lung function"
Short term (AKA acute) effects that are common of many things we take for granted & do daily.
"Ultimately, long-term .."
Every time I read that phrase, it makes me wonder how many ppl died as a result of #smoking while they wrote it. While we don't know the long term effects of #vaping, we know enough to know it has orders of mag. less of the harmful toxins of #smoking.
"..10-fold increase in current users of the #HNB devices was recorded in #Japan in just a single year."
You forgot to mention "Effectively slicing 20% off the market for #cigarettes."
"..and thus the use of HNB devices is not safer than e-cigarette or cigarette smoking."
And Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
Wow .. just, wow. Any study that suggests 0 difference between the 3 is garbage on the face of it.
"..the FDA has only just permitted their sale in the USA"
Dismissive way to discuss the reams of research in the application (running to millions of pages) which @FDATobacco pored over with a microscope before approving #IQOS for sale.
"A recent publication in the New England Journal of Medicine -claimed-[reported results that confirmed] that e-cigarettes are the most effective smoking cessation aid.."
#FTFY
.. Or did I miss your 'rapid response' to that study?
"The success rate for being nicotine free with the aid of an e-cigarette was only 3.7%"
'#Nicotine free' is the wet dream(1) of perverted #ANTZ. Here in the real world nicotine is about as harmful as #caffeine & I'm not giving up either.
1) Keep it to yourselves, thanks.
"..promoting these as safe smoking cessation tools.."
SafER is all we expect. We don't expect #IvoryTower #ANTZ to promote them, this is something we can do for ourselves if U & UR ilk just get out of the way.
That 20% drop in #cigarette sales in Japan was by. Consumer. Choice.
Well, that wraps it up on this one. There was a lot more could be said, but that's as much time (& patience) as I have for this nonsense opinion piece.
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Let's take a closer look..
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Att: @UofSC
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