I was reading a book critiquing Nilesh Oak's work on the dating of MBH. I guess this criticism is true about his work.
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"Analogies as astronomy positions

The Voyager- Simulation Nyaya is capable of proving even analogous statements.
A verse in Mahabharata compares seven Kaurava brothers attacking Bhima with seven planets attacking the Moon.

An enthusiastic Oak armed with this Nyaya runs the simulator and finds seven planets –
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that include Uranus, Neptune and Pluto – lined up in the sky from east to west in his Mahabharata date, corroborating this analogy![34]
Analogies have a special place in Nilesh Nilkanth Oak’s claims on ‘logical reasoning’.
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He has quoted 27 analogies on sharad season, each one given as a comparison with a scene of the battle field in the Mahabharata text, to support his claim that Mahabharata war did happen in the sharad season!![35]"
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"I have not read his Ramayana dating, but I am not averse to naming his technique of using analogies to ‘corroborate’ the date in the simulator as “Nilesh Oak Nyaya” or “Analogy Nyaya.”
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Analogy Nyaya Using Analogy Nyaya, Nilesh Oak has successfully corroborated the solar eclipse on the first day of the war. The text says that the dust raised by the armies caused the sun to disappear.
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The ‘scientific acumen’ in Nilesh Oak drives him to claim this as corroboration of solar eclipse.[38]" "
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Source:
amazon.ca/MYTH-EPOCH-ARU…
And this ‘Voyager- Simulation Nyaya’ per abv book. 🤣

"Voyager- Simulation Nyaya

From the way that Nilesh Oak defines and deduces Mahabharata vocabulary and references through Voyager simulations, I am tempted to name his interpretations as ‘Voyager- Simulation Nyaya’! 1/
This Nyaya does not require one to know the meaning of the words in which Vyasa and sages had composed their verses. It is just enough to run the simulation until you get the configuration you comprehended from the verse.
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This is what Nilesh Nilkanth Oak has done throughout the book. He even encourages his readers to do the same – to run the simulation to validate his findings.[28]
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There is no validation conceptually or mathematically for any celestial position he picked out from Mahabharata or in the simulation.
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Even a 4th standard child can do the simulation he has done, and the couple of calculations[29] he has given in the book is 4th standard arithmetic[30] only. And the corroborations he claims in the book sound like child’s play.
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For instance he interprets a verse[31] from Mahabharata to mean that there are seven planets ‘near’ the sun, though there is nothing explicit in the verse to suggest that seven planets were “near” the sun.
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However Nilesh Oak ‘corroborated’ his interpretation by showing seven planets from east to west [32] - and the seven is inclusive of the recently discovered Neptune and Uranus! But were the planets near the sun? It doesn’t matter.
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“Voyager does confirm presence of seven planets from east to west”[33] Nilesh Oak has proved ‘scientifically’ that seven planets were in the sky. This is what Vyasa must have meant. Oak will count it as a successful corroboration of an astronomy reference in Mahabharata. " "8/8
In short, unlimited Manastarangbaji (Padre's "(Social) Science") with planetarium software and few lines picked from Hindu Scriptures here and there. 😊

May be but I am not interested here in Oak as a person but his work.

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