In Vedanta there is no alternative to "Shabda Pramana". If the truth Vedas was an objective reality (Drishya) then yes one could have tested and verified it with Pratyaksha, Anuman etc Pramanas.
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But if Truth is Subject himself (Drashta), then by which Pramana Subject will know himself? There is no other option but Shabda Pramana ie Veda.

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चैतन्य(ब्रह्म) तो महावाक्यरुपी(वेद) शब्द प्रमाण के अलावा अन्य किसी भी प्रमाण से जाना ही नही जा सकता है।
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To explain the point here this parable of Tenth Man is very often quoted.

"The Parable Of The Tenth Man"
elizabeth-reninger.com/the-tenth-man/
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Think of this 10th man as having access to satellite imagery, drone, scuba divers etc as equivalent of Pratyaksha, Anumana etc and using it to find 10th lost man who he him self is.
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Unless someone comes and tells him (Shabda) that it's he himself is the lost tenth person, no amount of search using Satellite imagery, scuba divers, drone etc can find him. Same is true about चैतन्य and other pramanas.
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चैतन्य(ब्रह्म) is known only through Shabda Paramana in the form of Vedas.

"वेदान्तवेद्यं विभुम्‌।" ~ श्रीरामचरितमानस

"वेदैश्च सर्वैरहमेव वेद्यो"~ श्रीमद् भगवद्गीता 15.15।।"

"समस्त वेदों के द्वारा मैं ही वेद्य (जानने योग्य) वस्तु हूँ"
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17 Oct
Idiot!! Confuses referencing with "Shabda Pramana". First these "Scientific reasoning and logical acumen"( or whatever) self-conceited Dhakkans should develop the understanding of "Pramana" as it's stated in Scriptures.
Don't get fooled by the Sanskrit terms used by Oak in his books and talks eg like this one.

It has nothing to do with Pramana Shashtra of Indic Aastik or Nastik Darshans. Oak's methodology has been nicely deconstructed by @jayasartn in her book. Let me quote.
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"...he often talks about a methodology in his videos and blogs for dating Mahabharata war. He compared the
methodologies of sage Patanjali, Karl Popper and Richard Feynman and arrived at a combination.
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आर्यपिण्डविशेषत्वं तद्वत्‌ ॥ ६० ॥
इसी तरह आर्य पिण्ड(शरीर) की विशेषता हैं

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इसका विज्ञान कह रहे हैं--
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14 Oct
I was reading a book critiquing Nilesh Oak's work on the dating of MBH. I guess this criticism is true about his work.
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"Analogies as astronomy positions

The Voyager- Simulation Nyaya is capable of proving even analogous statements.
A verse in Mahabharata compares seven Kaurava brothers attacking Bhima with seven planets attacking the Moon.

An enthusiastic Oak armed with this Nyaya runs the simulator and finds seven planets –
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that include Uranus, Neptune and Pluto – lined up in the sky from east to west in his Mahabharata date, corroborating this analogy![34]
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