1/ This is a very important article that brings up a number of critical points-I have a few thoughts after reading it.

First, thanks to @apoorva_nyc whose coverage/writing has been incredible for months now.

#covid19
nytimes.com/2020/11/23/hea…
2/ @RanuDhillon & I wrote about an aspect of this back in September; one of the problems is that tracing spread to pinpoint exactly where transmission happened is actually not that straightforward which makes policy making difficult for #covid19

washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/0…
3/ We are left w/ tough choices, but as with everything, inaction has a serious cost

Decisions need to be made via risk (or cost)/benefit— if the possible benefit outweighs the poss cost, then the choice may make sense. For epidemic control, this calculation is key (but complex)
4/ So the recommendations re not gathering in close crowded poorly ventilated settings- many intimate social gatherings- comes from this line of thinking. We can’t pinpoint how much spread is happening here. We can take an educated guess that transmission does happens here
5/ This also may change quickly-it’s possible these gatherings weren’t driving the spread, but that they will be after Thanksgiving- that is the worry for many of us

I agree that telling people not to meet for Thanksgiving but leaving indoor dining/bars open doesn’t make sense!
5.5/ I also definitely agree that blaming people for gathering is an easy way to turn the blame back on the public when the real underlying issue is that we should never be in this situation in the first place, but we are bc our leaders didn’t do what they needed to.
6/ All of these high risk public settings should be closed & private gatherings with folks outside your “bubble” should be discouraged at this time.

And we need better contact tracing + outbreak investigation to understand where and how spread is continuing. #covid19
7/ I would not conclude, however, that small gatherings are *not* playing a notable role in transmission.

I would say that we are not quite sure what their relative contribution is compared to other high-risk settings at this time. #covid19
8/ The current title is sort of doing what the excellent article is recommending against- claiming certainty one way or the other about where transmission is happening when the answer is- we don’t know for sure bc the data that we have are really not very good.
9/ The problem is that we won’t have that data to the precision we need & we need to act now. The focus on small gatherings makes sense now bc thousands of them are about to happen this week. If this week were restaurant week, I would be tweeting about restaurants.
10/ The counter to my argument (in my head) is that we have limited energy; if we focus that energy in the wrong places (example- telling people to mask outdoors and not focusing on indoors), then we are also not optimizing our response.
11/ But this week, focusing on small indoor gatherings because they are about to happen at scale seems like the right use of our attention; sadly, we don’t have strong data one way or the other and I’m not sure we will have it soon w/ this level of viral transmission. ///

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25 Nov
We can’t say it enough; if you’re thinking about doing a virtual Thanksgiving but not sure if your single action is really going to make a difference— it is going to make a difference. I thank every one of you doing whatever you can do within your means right now. #covid19
2/ People are motivated when they know they aren’t alone— when it’s not only them that is taking one for the team; people need to believe there is a team at all.

There is a team. There are thousands if not more who are going to hold off on Thanksgiving this year.
3/ I will be working in the hospital during this holiday. Know that I am motivated knowing there are so many people out there supporting us. So many people out there who are giving up something huge because they want to help-that motivates me to keep pushing against this epidemic
Read 4 tweets
23 Nov
You know that moment when all the water pulls back from the beach until it’s completely & eerily empty right before a huge tsunami hits?

That was how it felt leaving the hospital today. Nearly every patient I took care of was #covid19 positive, up until the end of my shift.
2/ All kinds of stories here— stories that I’ve heard before; stories from April when we had our last surge. People infecting their parents, roommates infecting each other; nursing home/group home patients infecting each other.
3/ We tried to warn everyone to not travel unless it was an emergency & absolutely needed, not because we don’t want you to see your loved ones, but because we don’t want you to have to see them in a hospital bed as we see them. I am genuinely worried about what is coming next.
Read 6 tweets
22 Nov
1/ We usually call family members daily to update them on their loved ones. Some of the toughest calls are when the family is also infected. Many feel like it’s their fault for infecting mom or dad. Not being able to isolate safely at home *is not your fault*. #covid19
2/ Safe isolation is a fundamental part of epidemic response. This was a responsibility of our states & our government to provide this for people. As the virus surges, we will find ourselves in these situations again (we already are to be honest)
3/ I’m going to bring this back to the holiday before us. Please realize that spending days together at home with family you don’t usually see is a very bad idea. Testing helps & its necessary - but it won’t guarantee safety on its own.
Read 4 tweets
21 Nov
A traveler who tested neg 48 hrs prior to flight was infectious by day of flight, pre-symptomatic; using genomic analysis, traced to 4 cases of in-flight transmission

This doesn’t mean don’t get tested; it means *don’t travel unless an emergency* #covid19
washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/11…
2/ I don’t say that lightly. I know that this is a big sacrifice; but we were just shy of 200,000 new #covid19 cases yesterday. Hospitals will *not* be able to handle a holiday superspreading disaster happening simultaneously around the country.
3/ The problem with prevention is that it is hard to appreciate disasters that we avoided. This has been a challenge since the days of #stayHome - it can feel like a thankless task. But as a healthcare worker, I am thanking you right now. Please.

vox.com/platform/amp/2…
Read 8 tweets
20 Nov
1/ The single most important lesson I learned working on a state #covid19 response for 7 months: there is nothing worse you can do in an epidemic than waste time

We had over 187,000 new cases yesterday

What the hell are we doing?
2/ We have an intervention that we know works, that is of immense benefit w/ little to no cost. Yet we are still leaving that up to choice in so many parts of this country.

Don't ask me to say #MaskUp again- we need a national mask mandate for indoor spaces, now.
3/ We have thousands of Americans (maybe more) who are thinking about flying around the country for the holidays.

This is a true catastrophe waiting to happen. This is an epidemic slingshot being stretched, & will fire off more cases than we can handle.
Read 12 tweets
19 Nov
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1/ Have spent the last few weeks working on research examining early #covid19 spread globally. One of the articles needs to be re-shared again.

It looked at how Hong Kong, which had experience from SARS in 2003, kept its epidemic from getting out of control in March.
2/ They focused on intense surveillance not only in incoming travelers, but also in the community setting, testing 400 outpatients and 600 inpatients daily in *early March 2020*

If positive, patients remained isolated in hospitals until recovered/no longer shedding
3/ Close contacts were traced, from 2 days before illness onset.

They were quarantined in special facilities, so outside of the home.

By doing this well, they were able to avoid more intense lockdowns.

They also cite Singapore and Taiwan in this group of strong responders.
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