One thing I've been thinking about recently is that for Chinese firms, an IPO can be dangerous. Why? Attracting the wrong sort of attention. A quick thread with two examples (Ant is obviously one) 1/n
Ex 1: Qudian, a high interest small loan company that raised nearly $1b USD list October 2017, company then was only 3 years old. It had 7m borrowers and $5.6b in loans at the time of IPO. The secret to its success? Partnership with Alipay, whose user base turbocharged growth 2/n
Chinese authorities were aware so-called "cash loans" (like payday loans in the US) were a fast-growing business w/lot of risk and rampant abusive practices, but it was not until the IPO disclosures that they realized just how big it already was. So they slammed on the brakes 3/n
Almost immediately after IPO comes the crackdown. Authorities slapped big restrictions on cash lending, which rocketed up on the financial risk/regulation agenda. You can see the swift downfall in this share price chart for Qudian 4/n Image
Regulators also knew the role Ant played as a flyweel for Qudian's growth, so it got taken down a notch too--the rules, at least for a time, obliterated Ant's main model at the time for funding loans (ABS). 5/n
Fast forward to Ant IPO. Before prospectus, no one except a few people at Ant and perhaps a few regulators knew how large its loan portfolio was, how many borrowers, and scale of many of its other businesses. I research this for a living, and even I barely had a ballpark! 6/n
Why was this so important to what came next? Risks that might be raised internally bottom up at regulators became concrete, quantified, and known to the public, which means they could escalate to higher pol levels and test public opinion 7/n
***IMHO too much is made of Jack Ma's now infamous speech, instead of conditions that led him to gamble on it to fight off new regulations. At the time, info disclosed in IPO prospectus on Ant scale was filtering into regulators/pols, raising pressure for tougher rules. 8/n
In addition to disclosures, Ant achieving an IPO valuation on par with JP Morgan raised alarm bells in Beijing, in which top officials wondered how much of this stratospheric value was "rents" extracted from state banks and monopolistic position thanks to users/platform/data. 9/n
To conclude: there is much talk about the benefits to CN firms of positive state attention (contracts, subsidies, protection), but it is much safer to be 低调 (low profile), even for a hotshot company in China w/ a billion users, than to have your exact scale and biz in the open

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A quick thread on today's big new additions to the @CommerceGov entity list, why they may backfire, and why will be hard to roll back: 1/n
The main firms that can now no longer buy US tech or goods are SMIC (China's main semiconductor manufacturer)--but only for the most advanced semi tech, DJI (world-leading drone company), a big state construction and shipbuilding company, some in biotech, and universities 2/n
Commerce argues that all are acting against US broadly defined nat sec/foreign policy interests, from Civ/Mil fusion and Xinjiang to South China Sea. You can see the whole list and rationales here public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2020-28031.pdf 3/n
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Thread: Adding Ant to the entity list is a terrible idea.

If the bar to harsh US actions against a CN company is simply global success and innovation, USG plays into and strengthens the CN hardliner view that it US just wants to take CN down
scmp.com/news/world/uni…
Note the lack of real national security justification to give this action ant real legitimacy. No sanctions violations like ZTE/Huawei, and Ant isn’t actively going after US users, so “sensitive data” on Americans is bogus. Alipay is accepted in US but mainly for CN tourists.
any impact on Ant would prob be symbolic. I’m not aware of any major
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#Ant Prospectus Thread: Ant dwarfs any other #fintech company, but in past (frustratingly for researchers like me) disclosed few, sporadic details abt user #'s, assets, pymnt vol, bad loans, etc.. Prospectus is a treasure trove 1/n
2/n
Payments: 711 million active Alipay users, 1/2 of China's entire population. 80m merchants accept.
118 trillion RMB (17t USD) in payments last 12 mo, 622 billion x-border

Credit: 500m authorized borrowers, 2 tn RMB in consumer and small business loans outstanding
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Cannot overstate how big a deal this is: proposed rules for ICT supply chain exec order dropped today from @CommerceGov would give gov't unprecedented , sweeping authority over the tech sector. This goes miles beyond Huawei 1/n (h/t @pstAsiatech)
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