It's Monday VAR thread time, with only a few (high profile) things to mention:

- Southampton's "penalty" for handball
- Massively reduced interventions
- The offside equaliser
- Bruno Fernandes' challenge
Starting with the Southampton pen, it seems that the VAR, Mike Dean, has become tangled with the absolute letter of the law.

There are similarities with the Rodri decision for Man City, which went against Villa.

Neither decision was "what football expects."
"What football expects" is a key mantra of the VAR project.

While obviously the game must be officiated to the Laws of the Game, there are situations that are simply what they seem.

Rodri was offside.
Matty Cash gave away a penalty.

No one would have argued with either.
Mike Dean will point to the (albeit slight) deflection off the thigh onto the arm to justify not giving Southampton a pen. That line exists in law.

However, PL has said that incidents such as Koch of Leeds at Liverpool (deflection onto the outstretched arm) remain a penalty.
Matty Cash survived because his arm closer to the body. But he leans into the path ball with a straight arm. It's a deliberate movement.

Compare to Southampton v Liverpool. It's a natural position to block a shot. Arm in an expected position for the player's movement.
But something has changed.

Through to Dec. 26 there were 67 VAR interventions in 134 games. That's a frequency of 0.50 - one every other game (huge), or 5 a weekend.

Since then, only 7 interventions in 62 games. A frequency of 0.11 - one in 10 games, or 1 a weekend.
The Bundesliga season frequency for VAR is 0.23 (1 in 4 games), compared to the Premier League's 0.36 (1 in 3 games).

But the Bundesliga has had a consistent application across the season, while in the PL we've lurched from regular intervention to barely a touch.
What does that tell us? Premier League officials are still wresting madly to find the sweet spot for "clear and obvious," the point at which VAR should intervene.

VAR was way too fussy in the first part of the season, now we're back to the high bar being way up.
On Southampton's offside equaliser, let's be clear here:

- VAR did not disallow the goal, it was checking to see if it should be allowed
- Still disallowed under Dutch margin of error (assistant flagged)

The process and its flaws fully explained here:
PL shouldn't have ditched plans to stop showing the calculation process. It's stupid. No one has a clue what's going on, it's helps nobody and social media accounts - including rights holders - share incomplete, confusing and misleading images.

No surprise only the PL does it.
I know what's happening here because I have learned each step of the process in the course of my job. I'm probably one of a handful of people outside Stockley Park that does.

So why show this clash of pink, black and yellow lines? It can ONLY cause more unrest among fans.
To cover a few points from over the weekend.

1. No, strikers won't be able to roll their sleeves up to be onside. The offside point isn't the sleeve. It's (brace yourselves) an imaginary point on the arm. Which obviously can only bring inconsistencies (blame IFAB).
2. The offside law is not changing to Wenger's "daylight" law. Right now, there are no plans to change offside. It remains a key discussion point at the IFAB but any law change is years away.

3. Offside is exactly the same in all other top leagues. Here's one from Ligue 1.
Finally, on Bruno Fernandes against Arsenal. It's certainly naughty from Fernandes but it's more reckless (no force and intensity).

VAR cannot issue a yellow, even if he feels it should be a yellow.

As I've said before, similar challenges happen every weekend without a red.

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20 Jan
Tyrone Mings chesting the ball was judged by the officials and the VAR a deliberate act to play the ball and that reset the offside phase, bringing Rodri onside.

Can't agree, and surely has to be offside in this circumstance.

#MCIAVL
For me, this is the key point.

If Mings had made a deliberate play, messed up and the ball ran to Rodri, offside is reset.

But Mings' deliberate play was to control the ball and then he had it stolen off him by a player in an offside position. #MCIAVL
Obviously this is open to interpretation.

"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball is not considered to have gained an advantage."

So for me it's whether you believe Rodri *received* the ball from Mings, or stole it.
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30 Dec 20
The Premier League schedule can just about handle the games that have been postponed... so far.

But the league is on the brink of a fixture crisis, and the failure to entertaining agreeing curtailment / abandonment options may come back and bite them hard.
From the initial fixture build there were three Premier Lague catchup dates built in - the midweeks of March 2, April 20 and May 19.

However, these placeholders were primarily for teams which reached the Carabao Cup final and/or the FA Cup final.
Added to that, even without COVID postponements, if a PL team were to get the semis of the Champions League or Europa League and the final of both domestic cups there aren't enough spare midweeks to fit those games in.

Looking at you, Man City, Man United and Tottenham.
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28 Dec 20
It's the Monday VAR thread.

- Penalty incidents at Leeds
- Arsenal / Wolves / Palace penalties
- Brighton handball
- WBA goal

This is not a week when I'll get much appreciation for my opinions, but these are subjective decisions so we can't always agree...
The Leeds penalty is clouded by Nick Pope getting his foot to the ball. But that doesn't mean it cannot be a penalty.

I totally get why many will feel it shouldn't be a penalty, but once the referee has given this there's no chance it gets overturned.
From this image, it seems a clear challenge from the goalkeeper to get to the ball ahead of Patrick Bamford.

There's no problem here, it's a normal attempt to win the ball.

But that doesn't give Pope carte blanche. Image
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21 Dec 20
It's your Monday VAR thread! This week:

- Explaining the process of the Newcastle-Fulham penalty
- Red cards
- Few handballs
- A brief return to offside
First, the Newcastle penalty which resulted in a red card for Joachim Andersen via VAR.

The main questions and comments have centred around:
- It was outside the box!
- Why wasn't the referee shown replays?
- How can it be a red card if it's a penalty? (double jeopardy)
First, a reminder of the VAR process.

The ref will explain why he has given the decision, and the VAR will check replays for a clear and obvious error.

So, if ref Graham Scott says Andersen has clipped Callum Wilson's foot, does the VAR have reason to support that?
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2 Dec 20
Analysis of how margin of error could have affected all 16 VAR offside decisions in the Prem.

- 5 of 14 disallowed count
- Of the 5, 3 are Liverpool
- Three could have changed result (2 Liverpool)
- Only goal allowed would be ruled out on "Umpire's Call"

A thread.
To start with, if you missed it, here's yesterday's thread explaining how the Eredivisie uses margin of error on VAR offside.

Southampton v Tottenham (Sept. 20)

Goal (scored by Harry Kane) disallowed for offside against Son Heung-Min (0-0, Spurs won 2-5)

VAR DECISION: Offside
WITH MARGIN OF ERROR: Offside

Goal remains disallowed.
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1 Dec 20
We need a thread about West Ham v Aston Villa and offside.

The Dutch "margin of error" is suddenly getting traction in the UK media. Which of course you'd have known about two months ago if you followed the Monday VAR thread.

This ain't a silver bullet, but it would be better.
There are a couple important things to debunk.

- "Thicker lines" is misleading
- Players will still be offside by an inch

Which feeds into this discussion between @GNev2 and @Carra23 on MNF, specifically to Gary Neville's point.
The Dutch used "clear and obvious" on offside until this season, opting to introduce Hawk-eye tech as a more accurate tool.

But the lines have NOT been made thicker. It's purely that if the final red and blue lines touch, the decision stays on field. Umpire's call.
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