Wonderful opportunity to hear the great and the good discussing evidence underlying SARS-CoV-2 transmission & optimal mitigation: the most immediately pressing topics for humanity. @kprather88@DFisman and Prof John Conly #COVIDisAirborne
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Prof John Conly. In case you've forgotten: he's a VIP with respect to global health policy.
So we'd better hope he's up to speed on the latest science & isn't trying to hold on to respiratory virus transmission concepts based on dogma, bad science and/or bias, right?
Confession: for me, his presentation started very badly as it was exactly the same opening slides & discussion as in his July 2020 talk.
Best summarised as a masterclass in medical misinformation.
Summary: Does anyone else think these two slides alone provide evidence indicating that Prof Conly is importantly biased against airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2? He's omitted a vast body of data supporting airborne.
Does anyone have any idea what his true motivations are?
Amazingly, Prof John Conly admitted that airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur, but that "it's situational".
Face touching getting a mention here: maybe SARS-CoV-2 neuronal infection creates disinhibition of face touching behaviour?
It's possible I guess. But direct aerosol-bound viral binding of alveolar type II pneumocyte ACE2 receptors with TMPRSS2 is so much easier, right?
Last slide: nice attempt to suggest the airborne transmission 'world of science' [my words] is lacking rigour.
This tactic is a great ploy for politicians campaigning or aggressive advertising against competitor brands but has absolutely NO ROLE in scientific discourse.
Notable absences from Prof Conly's talk:
No attempt to explain how superspreading occurs with his 'transmission model' limiting airborne spread to 'situational'.
Nothing to counter the animal models which prove airborne transmission.
JC: accepted airborne transmission can occur but that it is 'situational'.
JC: regarding aerosol transmission, 'I would like to see much higher levels of scientific evidence including some basic science.'
MUCH higher: what's his definition of 'much'?
Fantastic exchange on the Q of why in early 2020, WHO did not use the precautionary principle & treat SARS-CoV-2 as an airborne transmitted virus.
@DFisman 'It's time to treat as predominant airborne spread'
Conly: 'I couldn't disagree more'
Reasons given? Next tweet...
Conly: 'you need to consider the harms of N95 masks'
- Acne
- Eczema
- Conjunctivitis
- CO2 retention
- Low O2 saturations in pregnant women
In this order. Honest.
Q for HCWs: given the choice, would you risk death/long covid/onward transmissions with FRSM, or 🖕 with N95?
So there you have it.
In a nutshell:
@kprather88 'Once we acknowledge it is airborne we can fix it.' @DFisman 'It's time to treat as predominant airborne spread.'
Prof John Conly 'Airborne transmission can occur: it's situational.'
‘There is considerable support in the scientific literature for a contribution of aerosol transmission to the spread of influenza A, which has been reviewed elsewhere (Tellier 2006).’
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‘Briefly, supportive evidences include the prolonged persistence of infectivity in aerosolized influenza A virus at low humidity, the transmission to volunteers of influenza by aerosols, reproducing the full spectrum of disease, at doses much smaller than the doses required..’
‘HMG PPE guidance on the indications for use of FFP3 respirator relies on two assumptions. First, that its list of AGPs & high-risk areas are exhaustive. Second, that the droplet theory of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is correct.’ @TheBMA@theRCN@KGadhok
‘If either of these two postulates are incorrect & the role of aerosolisation transmission is greater than currently thought, the current triaging system of respirators may result in HMG PPE guidance indicating a less effective form of RPE in a higher-than-expected risk setting.’
'In summary, antibodies against N protein of SARS-CoV-2 WERE NOT DETECTED in 408 (56%) of health care workers of a major hospital for COVID-19 in southern Vietnam.'
1. 'Early preparedness and experience gained from previous pandemics...safety training on COVID-19 patient management and laboratory safety for its designated staff in early January 2020'
When did you receive your COVID19 safety training? @davidshukmanbbc
2. 'To further reduce the risk of nosocomial infection, wearing a medical mask is mandatory for all COVID-19 patients, while being hospitalized.'
“She is a hedgehog. She has a theory that explains everything, and it gives her the illusion that she understands the world.” #FreshAirNHS#COVIDisAirborne
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