(0) I oft wonder if the way private-round token issuance mechanism we have today is the most elegant – yes there’s a simple vesting smart contract one can write, or one can stream via @sablier, but can we have a protocol that generalizes and tokenizes ERC20 vesting?
(1) The answer is most likely yes – and such tokenized “vesting schedule of ERC20” will also be tradeable on the likes of AMM platforms (if ERC20) or NFT platforms like OpenSea (if ERC721 + ERC1155). I would imagine this approach is superior to off-chain verbal / legal promises.
(2) To an extent, OTC trading of vesting tokens is already kind of happening but that involves a lot of trust (especially when it comes to swapping ETH private keys); perhaps another solution is have a platform for if [receive token] then [steam it to another address].
(3) Assuming this setup exists today, an investor would, upon TGE, receive various types of tokenized vesting-ERC20s instead – and can then (a) immediate swap these certificates in open markets, (b) borrow against them, and (c) even have clean mark-to-market for funds.
(4) Of course, whether projects and investors would like such a setup is debatable – after all, with the smoll circulating / swoll FDV game that’s being played today, it’s almost certainly true that these certificates would trade at steep discounts to spot tokens…
(5) …whereby discount is a function of massive opportunity cost, cycle risk, & execution risk. Such discount for a 36-month vesting certificate could be 80-90% haircut vs. spot – and this kind of sticker shock could very well scare spot buyers & cause downward pressure.
(6) There’s also argument to be made where whole point of vesting is to have illiquidity & lack of circulation, whereby tokenizing vesting schedule removes the friction and defeats the purpose. My view is while possible, such mechanism should still exist in case people want it.
(7) … after all, having a two-sided “futures” market (a) provides incredibly helpful feedback on how on-going circulating market-cap of a project should look (and helps guide pool2 strategies), and (b) allows smart, long-term investors to take sizable positions in open market.
(8) Other cool features may include (a) time-locks on when one can sell, (b) having yielding assets in the certificate that pays out, (c) conditional vesting based on certain on-chain / oraclized KPIs, (d) expand beyond just private sales but also salaries, etc.
(9) Broadly speaking, similar to how the Uniswap v3 LP position is no longer ERC-20, but ERC-721 to better represent ranges, the DeFi x NFT arena (aka non-standard assets with more variables & dimensions) seem grossly under-explored…
(10) … and for good reasons due to untenable gas prices on ETH L1 (which incidentally had been where the innovation was). But as the faster side-chains / L2 descend upon us, such exploration of more state-update-intensive token structures and mechanisms seems inevitable.
(11) To that end, @solvfinance should have their mainnet up pretty soon exploring exactly what I had talked about. I believe @genshards is working on something very similar. It’s also not impossible to imagine @SushiSwap's Miso implement something also.
(12) The issue, as always, would also be on the project on-boarding front. Such initiative is inherently very biz-dev oriented. Nonetheless, I could see investors of solid projects pushing for it if a lending market develops that improves capital efficiency meaningfully.
(13) To a broader point, I am incredibly bullish on innovation that could happen in L2 world – exponentially lower gas fee + sizable infusion of talent + capital creates a hot bed for evolution, and the new species on #DeFi, #NFT, and #Web3 into 2022 could be a sight to behold.
There's @SablierHQ and there's @Superfluid_HQ , but is there anyone else out there creating a product for tokenizing ERC20 vesting-schedule as a service? If you are working on it definitely let me know.
There's certainly a risk of if various classes of ERC20 vesting from pre-seed to Series-A are tradeable NFTs in market at the same time, what's going to happen to circulating spot ERC20 -- so adoption by projects could be an issue.
But such tokenization also seems inevitable?
As a follow-on point, I could see additional characteristics of the investment certificate also being non-transferrable over a period of time to mitigate such issue.
Personally I'm against this proposal. The additional 60 $RULER is added to the emission schedule alongside allowing the $RULER team + advisors (myself included) to stake $RULER for xRULER -- basically to help non-team xRuler stakers still get their emission.
Personally I don't see the need for additional 20 bps emission / month that adds to team's allocation given such additional emission doesn't really accrue value to the protocol (vs. LP liquidity or lending). Happy to debate here:
I do know Sifu as our strategic advisor who owns ~$1.5 mm USD worth of $RULER (who adds a ton of value!) would love to stake his tokens into xRuler. Perhaps we can have that occur eventually when the protocol actually generates fees. Inflation is precious today.
0 – In the past, I have expressed my anticipation on elegant solutions re: non-callable lending – and expect many teams to throw their hats into the ring. @RulerProtocol is what I believe to the 1st valid attempt to take a crack at it (if you know others, dm me! @nftfi maybe?)
1 – The scope of the problem re: “why do we need non-callable lending” is clear – many assets don’t have continuous prices (i.e. trade by appointment, OTC, etc) and can’t really have oracles. Even for less liquid ERC20s, the quality of oracle starts becoming questionable.
2- With current price-centric liquidation model (i.e. loan is called by smart-contract lender when price of collateral dips below X), lend / borrow for long-tail, non-continuous price assets simply doesn’t work (also part of reason why lending protocols pick collateral carefully)
0 – Alpha police would lynch me, but for stables farms, there’s $FLOAT’s ~1.5% whitelisted daily, the boosted 20-50% APY in CRV / Dodo, the stonk:UST pool of ~200% via $MIR, the ~100% SD Curve eurs in $SDT, one can also degen $Cover no-claim for 50-100%. Here’s a more degen one…
1 – A $TRU competitor had entered – I haven’t heard from Coinflex for a while but they just came out with notes.finance as its #DeFi attempt. ~10k% APY on unsecured lending to prop desks on a mere $25-30 mm $FLEX FDV to start (funded via $FLEX inflation).
2 – The 2 products they have are actually rather neat – one is a yield-generating USD (flexUSD) where the interest comes from basis trade on corn (perp funding fee / long spot short futures), which is paid out onchain via rebase every 8 hours.
0 - The coverage on the DODOnomics is over-due. So here it is. The TVL is low (and intentionally so optimized for volume going through platform). As the marathon continues into multi-platform (BSC, DOT, etc) and multi-vertical, I continue to have high hopes for the $DODO team.
1 – Staking DODO into vDODO = membership right (would imagine a secondary market would develop) similar to xSushi and BNB – earns fees + inflation, gets fee discounts, gets IDO allocations (could happen to xSushi / Miso too?), and votes.
2 – Here’s some additional neat token-economics - one is mint / stake via shared link gets referral rewards on inflation. Second is exiting vDODO into liquid DODO carries a 5-15% fee – and the more people stake vDoDo, the lower the exit fee…
1- I may have spoken about this before, but I think it’s rather likely existing #DeFi protocols would vertically and horizontally expand into financial conglomerates. What’s 1 module of financial primitives would expand to a full suite of services
2- …for the main reason being (a) you spent the CAC for customer & TVL, might as well monetize, (b) devs need new things to put minds on + take on more cool projects, (c) token-holders demand more, and (d) meaningful synergy across primitives.
3 – for #DeFi on ETH. The barrier of entry is starting to form – there’s L2 to think about, there’s “should I be on DOT / have my own chain”, but there’s also “is my team stacked enough to compete against XYZ while XYZ broadens the scope.”