And before anyone complains the CIs are overlapping, that's a sophomoric complaint. Remember that's the 95% CI, and 95% is an arbitrary bar. Also there are other data that show J&J's lower effectiveness on hospitalization, such as below (pre-Delta)
BTW if you're going to say there's a chance the J&J vaccine could be up to 77% effective (top end of 95% CI, so there's only a 2.5% chance of that) and that overlaps with the 73% low end of the Pfizer effectiveness (again only a 2.5% chance of that), then...
you also have to say there's an equally likely chance that the J&J vaccine is as low as 31% effective vs Pfizer's 85%. So yes, you can pick ends of a 95% CI interval to say there's a small likelihood of actual no difference, but you're most likely to be wrong.
So yes there is very much such a thing as improper interpretation of statistics, which is the science of quantifying uncertainty. You can try to impose edge interpretations onto your statistical results, but doing so repeatedly renders statistics meaningless.
In any case, the difference between J&J and Moderna effectiveness is statistically significant beyond 95% as well. This is very much a clear case.
Back to the topic at hand, this is very reassuring that @CDCgov itself has data showing lower efficacy of the J&J vaccine, on top of 2 other studies showing ~70% efficacy vs hospitalizations of the J&J vaccine.
I am optimistic that something can now be done for #JnJers.
And if you count OK numbers as more evidence, I had seen earlier that J&J protection vs hospitalization also lagged the other vaccines, with statistical significance vs Delta (scroll down in linked thread)
The above numbers just for hospitalization. If you look at J&J protection vs cases from Delta, it looks even worse at ~50%, both in my analysis of DC breakthroughs below
And J&J protection from Delta infection was also "about half" in unofficial comments from the South Africa trial fortune.com/2021/09/07/joh…
Such low numbers — 70% protection from hospitalization and 50% protection from cases — have been stated by health officials to be unacceptable for RNA vaccinees, which is why boosters are planned before their immunity wanes to that point.
2) The editorial takes the form of a metaanalysis of vaccine efficacy, but it's the worst statistical malpractice I've ever seen. Fortunately it's short (one figure of 4 panels), so hopefully we can get through it quickly and point out the major issues.
Panel A: What is this??? Studies are grouped by efficacy ranges of 50-80, 80-90, and 90-100 for disease, then their average efficacy for all disease and severe disease are plotted. Why??? I'll try to be polite but I'm upset by this. It's an insult to human intelligence.
You may recall on August 6 the SA trial announced 71% effectiveness against Delta hospitalization, but didn't say anything about effectiveness against disease, which is the default metric and the one used if you are gonig to report only one number.
Some surmised that effectiveness against Delta disease must be very unimpressive, or else it would have been reported alongside the hospitalization numbers on 8/6 (which were already unimpressive).
🧵We discussed how mucosal antibodies function to block SARSCoV2 infection. A study on this just posted from my Stanford colleague Michal Tal and UToronto collaborator Jennifer Gommerman.
Interesting: RNA and J&J make Abs in saliva, but neutralizing levels only detected with RNA
2) First, as a reminder, the role of mucosal antibodies (thought mostly to be IgA, but we'll revisit that in a moment) is to block viruses, once they land on your mucous membranes, from entering your cells.
1) There was an ACIP meeting today, but nothing newsworthy happened. CDC briefing materials (as posted at cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/…) are limiting the ability of ACIP to independently and intelligently assess data.
2) Most concerning, CDC continues to withhold J&J data by omitting it entirely or lumping it together with the 10x larger Pfizer+Moderna data so it becomes a rounding error. No wonder ACIP is not able to make any recommendations specifically for J&J cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/…
3) But the data exist, and is becoming increasingly in plain sight, showing higher case and hospitalization rates for J&J than for Pfizer and Moderna in the real world against Delta
In a recent thread I posited that mechanisms of antibody production, viral resistance, and somatic hypermutation can explain why pre-Delta vaccines block most Delta infections but not peak virus levels once infected, yet still limit late disease.
Most neutralization of SARSCoV2 infection is performed by antibodies against the spike (S) protein, and the vaccines used in the US include only S and no other parts of SARSCoV2, so we'll concentrate on S as the antigen, i.e. the protein targeted by antibodies or T cell receptors
Your body has millions to billions of resting/naive B cells, each with an unique surface-bound antibody or immunoglobulin (Ig), just waiting to find their match to foreign particles. You also have T cells with unique T cell receptors (TCRs) ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
In our @nytimes opinion piece, Dr. Paul Sax (Brigham and Women's Hospital) and I present why the data support RNA boosters for immunocompromised J&J patients, now possible off-label.
And when boosters kick in for everyone, we hope #JnJers are given good options at the same time.
And that's why we think the data we have sitting in databases on J&J VE need to be openly discussed, and why boosters for #JnJers are needed at least at the same time as boosters for everyone else.