Salih Aal Al Shaykh said:
فهناك أحكام دنيوية وهناك أحكام أخروية، فأحكام الدنيا بحسب الظاهر وأحكام الآخرة بحسب الظاهر والباطن، والعباد ليس عليهم إلا الظاهر، وربنا – جل وعلا – يتولى السرائر. فإذا أظهر طائفة كفراً أو معين كفراً فإنه يكفره العالم إذا قامت الشروط وانتفت الموانع يكفره بعينه، ومن قام به الكفر
أو قام به الشرك سواء كان معذوراً أو غير معذور؛ يعني لم تقم به الحجة فهو كافر ومشرك ظاهراً.
    فإذن من قام به الشرك فهو مشرك؛ لأن كل مولود ولد على الفطرة، والله – جل وعلا – أقام الدلائل على وحدانيته في الأنفس وفي الآفاق، وهذه الدلائل حجة على المرء في أنه لا يعذر في أحكام الدنيا
بارتكاب الكفر والشرك؛ نعني بأحكام الدنيا ما يتعلق بالمكلف من حيث علاقته بهذا الذي قام به هذا الشرك، من جهة الاستغفار له والأضحية عنه ونحو ذلك.
    أما الأشياء التي مرجعها إلى الإمام مثل استحلال الدم والمال والقتال ونحو ذلك فهذه إنما تكون بعد الإعذار وقيام الحجة.
فهناك شيء متعلق بالمكلف من حيث هو هناك شيء يتعلق بالإمام.

    فإذن صار عندنا أشياء متعلقة بالظاهر، وأخرى بالباطن، الباطن يتبعه بعض أحكام الدنيا كالاقتتال ونحو ذلك بعد إقامة الحجة والباطن يتبعه الأحكام الأخروية لقوله (وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَ حَتَّى نَبْعَثَ رَسُولاً)
لهذا أجمع أهل العلم على أن أهل الفَتْرة كفار مشركون لا يوصفون بإسلام
Judgements in this world are mostly based on the Thahir (what’s apparent) whilst in the hereafter, judgements are based on both the Thahir and the Batin

We judge by what’s apparent (the Thahir) as expanded upon before whilst Allah judges the Batin in the hereafter.
Do note that judgements on the Batin can also be established in this world once the Hujjah Al Risaaliyyah is applied upon an individual & he rejects it.
Thus, if an individual shows Kufr then the scholar is to pronounce Takfir on said individual once the conditions are found and the impediments uplifted.

But anyone in a state of Kufr/Shirk, then he is, from the apparent, described as a Kafir/Mushrik whether or not he has excuse
And this is because we are born upon the Fitrah and the oneness of Allah is established in a clearcut manner.

In essence, this is because it’s an issue that is ظاهرة as we described here
Therefore, this person is not excused for committing Kufr/Shirk in terms of the judgements in this world.

What is meant by judgements in this world is that which is linked to the accountable person’s relationship with this Mushrik.
Meaning that you wouldn’t ask Allah to forgive him, you won’t eat from his sacrifice, you won’t pray behind him, you won’t follow his funeral etc.

As for that which returns to the ruler ie making their blood & wealth halal, fighting them etc then this is only done
once the Hujjah Al Risaaliyyah has been established and the conditions are fulfilled and the impediments removed.

But in both cases they are still described as Mushrik and are not given the title of a Muslim.
The scholars are in agreement that the one who is in a state of Shirk cannot be given the ruling of a Muslim or be labelled a Muslim, whether or not the Hujjah has reached him and whether or not this person labels themselves a Muslim.
However, there’s Khilaf amongst the scholars as to what we label this person if the Hujjah hasn’t reached him.

First view:

We still call him a Mushrik & not a Muslim.

Second view:

We neither call him a Mushrik nor do we call him a Muslim. But we can call them Ahl Al Fatrah
Either way, this Khilaf doesn’t break the consensus mentioned that a person who is in the state of Shirk cannot be labelled a Muslim, whether or not the Hujjah has reached them.

This is cuz there’s an Ijma’ that Ahlul Fatrah are Mushrikeen & are not to be described with Islam.
Ibn Qayyim Al Jawziyyah said:

فالمعرض عن التوحيد مشركٌ شاء أو أبى

al-maktaba.org/book/33385/451
And logically this makes sense as Islam and Kufr, Tawheed and Shirk are opposites that can’t be found together in the same place at the same time

You can’t say X is a Muslim Mushrik

You’re either one or the other. Can’t be both at the same time

يستحيل الجمع بين النقيضين
Muhammad b. Gharib, a student of MIAW states this:

لا يجتمع متضادان في شيء واحد، والمُثبت له الإسلام في هذه الحالة جامعٌ بين النقيضين، وهو غير ممكن

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13 Sep
.@BroHajji says that he “takes knowledge from Shaykh Abdul Aziz Al Turayfi”

The Najdi Imams and I were labelled Takfeeri & ISIS forefathers/sympathisers by this ignoramus for saying that you cannot be a Muslim and a Mushrik at the same time

Let’s see if he is consistent
Abdul Aziz Al Turayfi says:

ولهذا نقول: نثبت الأسماء على من ظهر منه موجبها, ونُتْبِع الحكم إذا قامت الحجة عليه
Here we learn two points

1/ Al Turayfi affirms the name upon whomever we see doing something that necessitates that name being attached unto them

2/ Al Turayfi says we then follow up the giving of this name with the [relevant] ruling when the Hujjah is established

What Ruling?
Read 18 tweets
12 Sep
The ignoramus attempted a reply to my thread here. Let us provide a quick reply
Tweet 1:



Reply:

Regarding point 1 it seems you haven’t even understood the point of contention here

As we explained here, The Najdis do not apply the ruling of Kufr
(ie they don’t make a specific individual’s blood and wealth halal) until they establish the Hujjah Al Risaaliyyah upon said individual.

However, they don’t label an individual who is in the state of Shirk a Muslim as we showed here:
Read 23 tweets
11 Sep
Some questions to this ignoramus:

1- Where in the text highlighted with the red arrow does it say “but their blood and their wealth is permissible”?
2- Why didn’t you read and translate the passage “وإن كنا لا نحكم على هذا الشخص لعدم قيام الحجة عليه? which comes right after the passage quoted above (Point 3)
3- This ignoramus gives a horrible translation to Point 5 that completely distorts the intended meaning as shown in the linked tweet

Read 13 tweets
11 Sep
It’s important to note that what we judge is based on what’s apparent and the Batin is left for Allah.

As for the statement that “الباطن يتبعه بعض احكام الدنيا” then if what’s intended is that the Istitabah etc is something that shows the Batin of an individual then this is fine
But still everything in this world is based upon the apparent.

Because we cannot label someone a Kafir except through what is apparent.
Read 4 tweets
11 Sep
If the three previous threads are understood, we can now understand a statement of some Najdi scholars that is commonly shared
The statement:

إذا كان يعمل بالكفر والشرك، لجهله، أو عدم من ينبهه، لا نحكم بكفره حتى تقام عليه الحجة؛ ولكن لا نحكم بأنه مسلم، بل نقول عمله هذا كفر، يبيح المال والدم، وإن كنا لا نحكم على هذا الشخص، لعدم قيام الحجة عليه؛ لا يقال: إن لم يكن كافرا، فهو مسلم، بل نقول عمله عمل الكفار
Read 21 tweets
11 Sep
it is important to understand that judgements in this world are in accordance to what is apparent.

As for judgements based on what is on the inside (Al Batin), then this is predicated upon the establishment of the Hujjah Al Risaaliyyah (وما كنا معذبين حتى نبعث رسولا)
The second rightly guided caliph said:

إنما نأخذكم الآن بما ظهر لنا من أعمالكم، فمن أظهر لنا خيراً أمناه وقربناه وليس إلينا من سريرته شيء، الله يحاسبه في سريرته، ومن أظهر لنا سوءاً لم نأمنه ولم نصدقه وإن قال إن سريرته حسنة

sunnah.com/bukhari:2641
We can derive from this that anyone from whom Shirk becomes apparent, we are to judge him based on that which is apparent.
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