X : Blah, blah, blah, business leader.
Me : Business leader?
X : Yes, that's what I am.
Me : The ability to lead people that you pay to be lead by you?
X : No, I give direction.
Me : Would anyone follow you if you weren't paying them? I think business manager might be more apt.
Me : Business leader?
X : Yes, that's what I am.
Me : The ability to lead people that you pay to be lead by you?
X : No, I give direction.
Me : Would anyone follow you if you weren't paying them? I think business manager might be more apt.
X : I am a leader.
Me : In a very loose sense of the word. I could argue that I am beautiful by paying a thousand people to say so ... doesn't make it true. I understand where you're going but I wouldn't go around calling yourself a business leader. What's wrong with manager?
Me : In a very loose sense of the word. I could argue that I am beautiful by paying a thousand people to say so ... doesn't make it true. I understand where you're going but I wouldn't go around calling yourself a business leader. What's wrong with manager?
X : I am more than a manager.
Me : So it's not about the role and what you do, it's about ego?
X : No, it's about the simple truth that I lead.
Me : Gosh, nothing simple in this. How many ways can we unpack this. I better not.
X : Why?
Me : I'll cause more harm than good.
Me : So it's not about the role and what you do, it's about ego?
X : No, it's about the simple truth that I lead.
Me : Gosh, nothing simple in this. How many ways can we unpack this. I better not.
X : Why?
Me : I'll cause more harm than good.
X : Cat got your tongue?
Me : Hmmm, if it makes you happy to call yourself a business leader then fine. Just consider ...
X : What?
Me : how it makes those around you feel.
X : Why would I care?
Me : Yes, that is what I was afraid of.
X : I don't understand.
Me : You never will.
Me : Hmmm, if it makes you happy to call yourself a business leader then fine. Just consider ...
X : What?
Me : how it makes those around you feel.
X : Why would I care?
Me : Yes, that is what I was afraid of.
X : I don't understand.
Me : You never will.
X : I will.
Me : Ok. Leadership is not something you give yourself, it is something others give you. They choose to follow you. In your case, they're not choosing to follow you, they're choosing to get some money for which a condition is attached of obeying your instructions.
Me : Ok. Leadership is not something you give yourself, it is something others give you. They choose to follow you. In your case, they're not choosing to follow you, they're choosing to get some money for which a condition is attached of obeying your instructions.
Me : That's not leadership. A more apt phrase might be economic slavery. If "your" people didn't have to work for money, how many would voluntarily be lead by you? Have you ever played WoW / Eve online?
X : That's a game. What has that got to do with business.
Me : Everything.
X : That's a game. What has that got to do with business.
Me : Everything.
Me : These online environments provide a world where you can build guilds but you have to do so through concepts of belonging, values, principles and purpose. If you can build a 600 person guild on something like WoW with nothing at all ... then you'll know how to lead.
X : That's just rubbish. I run a very profitable company.
Me : You were pomoted into that role and you've never built a company. Just think about taking some time, have a bit of fun and try building a guild on a MMORPGs. See what happens.
X : Waste of my time.
Me : Probably.
Me : You were pomoted into that role and you've never built a company. Just think about taking some time, have a bit of fun and try building a guild on a MMORPGs. See what happens.
X : Waste of my time.
Me : Probably.
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