Thread by @redistrictAZ

And they are back
Com.Lerner -- I see 8.0; 9.1 and 9.2 as fundamentally similar
Wants to start w/ 9.0
A result of trying to create a compromise between 7.0 and8.0 -- and keeping Marana and Ora Valley into one district - plus now a few other communities.
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Meets contst. criteria - geography, coi,
Previous iteration in 7.0 a - a more dem leaning district in D17 -- 9.0 makes it more competitive --
respects interest from many communities - Amphitheatre schools -
9.0 unites the larger unified school districts

Still Com. Lerner -- unties districts in a good way -- School districts as a COI

Casas Adobes and Cat Foothills united- names roads linking these communities :: Share services between one place and another

Another piece is geographic concern -- Tanque Verde

Still Com. Lerner
InMarCo - we have been sensitive toot using S Mnt to separate LD 11 - we should do the same thing here --

We believe this is a great compromise from 8.0 or 9.1 and 9.2 -- recognizes and respects many criteria
we = com. Lerner and Watchman

Com. Mehl wants to make great arguments for 8.0 and 9.2 is a compromise between 9.0 and 8.0 -- he is "Surprised" at how well it combines some of the communities - 9.0 splits the foothill.

Is it just me, or is he slightly less confident that he usually is? His voice is quite so

More from Mehl - Marana, Oro Valley and "Tanque Verde corridor" -- adamantly refused to annex into Tucson .. mentions impact on communities I've never heard of..

Says competitiveness is very similar -- says he would be open to adjustments to D17 to make it more competitive in the final mapping phases

Now Lerner
D-16 has 1.7 deviation
D-17 - is at 7.9 it is not at all competitive - what we are proposing it is 1.1
One more thing - TanqueVerde is an hour away -- in urban areas we can have more compact and contiguous districts

Vale - go through three districts to get to another part of the district

Initial goal we have had consistently - to unite Marana and Oro Valley and similar communities. 9.0 does this.

Com. Lerner mentions a fair amount of public comments from stakeholders in this area..

Com. @ErikaNeuberg says Com. Mehl feels 9.2 is a compromise - you feel(Asking COm. Lerner) 9.0 is a compromise. Yes she says and explains gain why she thinks that.

To be honest D17 between 8.0; 9.1 and 9.2 is quite similar -- the 9.0 maps meets the issues raised early on

Mehl -- I've stated the case that 9.2 is a compromise and it has addressed her concerns -- meets a wider variety of COI than 9.0

he is nervous - I've NEVer heard his voice break

Now @ErikaNeuberg sees 9.2 as a compromise as Com. Mehl

Will propose that we can start from 9.2 and make small tweaks - her inclination is to start with 9.2 -- goal for entire day. Does not want to be the deciding vote.

ComLerner - On 9.2
In current map -- it bypasses Casas Adobes to get to Tanque Verde -- school districts and local officials have said they should be part of that district.. transportation corridor

That's really what I am talking about in terms of compactness and contiguity. This district was drawn to have a partisan advantage. Tobe honest. We can create a district that respects

COI and and competiveness so all voices are heard...

@ErikaNeuberg says it is important that people right of center have an ability to elect a representative of their preference.. I think that is important
Com. Lerner - that is what competitive is for,

We are moving from 57 - dem - to a 10 point spread to make it Rep -- that does not fit our criteria -- if we keep it within our competitive range we could do that -- Not trying to destroy the Dem leaning district s

Com Mehl - Better pop balance --
Com Lerner - We'll get to pop balance in all our distinct
Com Mehl
Hemove that we approve Map 9.2 and"promises" to work with everyone on pop difference in in D 17 and D 18
York Seconds.
@ErikaNeuberg abstains -- motion fails

Com Lerner - proposes 9.0 -makes same promise as Com Mehl - Watchman second
@ErikaNeuberg abstains - motion does not pass.

well now what?
@ErikaNeuberg says she was drawn to 9.2
Want to set an example how to engage and compromise. and then says she'll vote for 9.2
Com. Mehl wants to request adjustments to 9.2
@ndc_doug suggests using 8.0 and adding additional requests that were suggested

to get to 9.2 -- Com Lerner says we could do the same thing to 9.0 --- 9.2 is very partisan - if we have the smaller range it gives the opportunity to people choose their representative~~ I don't know-how to get compromise.
18 -20 and 21 are within the spread.

-I could redraw the make to take Cochise and make it less competitive -- to suggest that having one R district -is just not reasonable
Mehl is flustered.. but he'll still win..

Chair @EirkaNeuberg says Lerner is getting hung up -- I think it is a real great compromise and something we can work with - two choices -- we can either vote on9.2

We havedifferentvisisonof what the COI are - Believe Casas Adobes belongs w/ Marana and OroValley. I wasn't looking for the party lean of this district. Creating district for that particular purpose is not constitutional.

ComLerner -continues -- I don't know what the compromise would be.And there are districts throughout the state w/ the same issue. Would love to address them across the state.
York - Ina Road is a major corridor it is split ... York is there to talk about transportation corridors

Com. Watchman - 9.0 is the compromise -- It accommodates the COI --30years since I lived there -- I think we went beyond the compromise we wanted when we landed on 8.0

Can I say that the political parties - Democrats and Republicans - Are not a fucking commiunity of interest.
@CivilRights @BallardSpahrLLP @SWLawNews
@ArizonaIRC is drawing a district for Republicans in @pimaarizona

Newsflash: @ErikaNeuberg votes with the two Republican partisan commissioner to adopt a map that specifically is created to explicitly create a safe Republican district in @pimaarizona

Com. Mehl then pushes the @ArizonaIRC make 9.2 the official DRAFT map. Lerner pushes back. @ErikaNeuberg offers a words salad - says not bothered by mountain range. could still be considered compact

Com. Mehl - says something we could do right now is pop. balance - move 5K- 8K into D17
Com Lerner - we defined what would be competitive. Making the district go from 9pt uncompetitive to 8 pt uncompetitive doesn't move me

A bit of skirmish about highly uncompetitive districts all across testate -
Com Lerner says these numbers bother all over the state
I focused on D17 because we have heard from COI

Chair @ErikaNeuberg isn't sure those "right center" would not be marginalized.

York - first lead w/ like-mindedness - our job is to take this communities into account --says Casa Adobes fits better w/Marana -some something

Com. Lerner - if we think about "right of center" voters here - then we need to think about "left of center votes" all across the state

@ErikaNeuberg say "Absolutely. That's about not disenfranchising voters."

Change Mehl suggested made the district more conservative.Taking a break. Asked making to come up with suggestions. Are mappers supposed to draw districts that are not directed by commissioners.

This is crazy. Like WendyRogerMarkFinnchemPaulGosarcrazy.

Ok, so even if no trail, the fact that you could bushwhack over a 9,000 ft mountain range = contiguous.