Headlines about a study in @TheLancetInfDis stating that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread Covid as unvaccinated are misleading. Here's why.

1) Vaccination has lower risk of transmission even in this study (see table) & severe disease.
2) This study is primarily on household contacts. Household contacts live with each other. So the exposure is prolonged and sustained. So differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups will narrow in household settings.
3) What the study shows is that transmission from vaccinated people to household contacts can occur but at lower rate than unvaccinated. It also basically explains why the delta wave has occurred in even in some well vaccinated countries.
4) We knew from India's second wave that unlike the wild type variant once people had delta, in the household it spread to almost everybody. That is why India had the devastating crisis. So it is not surprising that delta variant can spread at a lower rate after vaccination.
5) Finally and most importantly this study is conditioned on a breakthrough infection after vaccination occurring. Vaccinated people are much less likely to get infection in the first place.
6) In this CDC funded study in the US, unvaccinated people who had prior COVID had 5 times greater risk of getting COVID compared to fully vaccinated people. This risk will be far higher if you compare to unvaccinated people who haven't had COVID. cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7…
7) Transmission depends on

a) how likely you are to get Covid; and b) if you get Covid, then how likely are you going to transmit.
8) Vaccinated people are far less likely to get Covid. That's the main variable.
9/ In the @TheLancetInfDis study, fully vaccinated individuals with delta variant infection had a faster drop in viral load than unvaccinated individuals.

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1 Nov
COVID vaccines greatly reduce severe disease and deaths.

6 countries with delta waves. In each instance despite a rise in cases, deaths have stayed low this time around thanks to vaccines. Image
Note that even in countries like UK and Israel, one third of the population is not fully vaccinated. In absolute terms the numbers are high and allows virus to circulate.

Some vaccinated people are unable to mount an immune response due advanced age or cancer or other illnesses
To overcome these problems we need higher vaccination rates, booster doses at least for those at high risk, and continuation of preventive measures (masks and distancing) for some more time.
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29 Oct
Vaccines protect better against COVID than prior infection. Let this please end the "natural immunity" talk. #GetVaccinated nytimes.com/2021/10/29/hea…
Infection with Covid does give some protection. But getting vaccinated after will augment that protection and make it more durable.

For more read my prior thread on why it's important to get vaccinated whether or not you have had COVID.
It really doesn't matter whether vaccines protect 5 times more than prior Covid, to the same level, or even a lesser degree than prior infection. Vaccines are a far safer way to get immunity if you haven't had Covid. And if you already had Covid, vaccines augment that protection.
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As close to herd immunity as we can get so far:
5 countries have ~80% or more of their population fully vaccinated.

1) Deaths at or below 0.2 per 100K for >6 months.

2) UK at 68% fully vaccinated has kept deaths low at similar level despite sharp rise in cases. Vaccines work.
To get to 80% or more of total population is not easy when kids <12 are not yet able to get vaccinated.

These 5 countries vaccinated almost 90% or more of eligible population to get here. Kudos!
Since COVID infections seem to occur to some extent even after vaccinations, although much lower and milder that in absence of vaccinations, only time will tell whether we can get to long term herd immunity — with or without further boosters.
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25 Oct
On Jan 24, 2020 @DrEricDing posted a massive warning about the impending pandemic: The Holy Mother of God thread.

"We are now faced with the most virulent virus 🦠 epidemic the world has ever seen," Eric wrote.

As I read his thread again today, all of it has sadly come true
1/
He wrote:

"possibly an unchecked pandemic that the world has not seen since the 1918 Spanish Influenza. Let’s hope it doesn’t reach that level but we now live in the modern world 🌎 with faster ✈️+ 🚞 than 1918. @WHO and @CDCgov needs to declare public health emergency ASAP!"
2/
People quarreled with the R0 that was in @DrEricDing's thread, but most epidemiologists and leaders and organizations missed the forest for the trees.

We know what happened since:

240 million cases worldwide
5 million deaths

46 million cases in the US
>750,000 deaths

3/
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24 Oct
Alabama has lost more lives due to COVID in 2021 than other US states. More than 200 deaths per 100K population.

Vaccination rate in Alabama is 47th of 50 states. Only 44% of the population are fully vaccinated.
>400,000 cases this year. >10,000 deaths.
Some other states that have lost an high rate of lives this year:
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Great article by @EricSylvers @WSJ on what life would look like in a country with high vaccination rate that proceeds cautiously with reopening.

The virus still circulates but deaths are very low. Life gets closer to normal with sensible precautions. wsj.com/articles/endem…
Amazing vaccination stats: 89% of the population have received at least one dose.

Almost 100% of those age 50+. 95% age 25-49.
We need to get over the mind set that wearing masks in some settings or needing to show proof of vaccination is an infringement on freedom. And realize that freedom comes by adopting sensible measures.

It's the repeated waves that pose a bigger threat to our freedom.
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