Updated WHO severe COVID treatment guidelines bit.ly/3rhGgKW

Recommended
🟢Steroid (#Dexamethasone)
🟢IL6 blocker (#Toci) or 🟢JAKi (#Baricitinib)
🟠±mAb in seronegative people

NOT recommended
🔴#Hydroxychloroquine
🔴#ivermectin
🔴#remdesivir

Lots to discuss, a🧵
1/
Remdesivir (RDV) is in the “We suggest no remdesivir” category.
At some level, this isn’t too surprising & is old news.
Despite initial hype, RDV never moved the needle much on patient centered outcomes (risk of mortality or requiring IMV) & many of us had stopped using it.
2/
In #ACTT1 RDV did improve outcomes on an ordinal scale, but the effect was modest. It shortened time to clinical improvement but not hospital LOS (patients stayed in the hospital longer to receive it).
RDV did NOT improve mortality or risk of IMV.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32445440
3/
In #DisCoVeRy, an n=857 adaptive open label trial in Europe (🇫🇷 🇧🇪 🇦🇹 🇵🇹 🇱🇺), RDV had no clinical benefit in terms of mortality, risk of mechanical ventilation.
Unlike ACTT-A, no major differences in ordinal scale were seen.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34534511/
4/
In #Solidarity, a very large (n=5451) global (🌍) open label RCT of repurposed drugs run by the WHO, RDV again had no clinical benefit in terms of hospital mortality or need for IMV.
(Solidarity study also conclusively disproved benefit from HCQ)
5/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/33264556
Likewise, I think almost everyone is on the steroids PLUS train, where dexamethasone is combined with another immune modulator, either a JAKinhibitor (Bariticinib) or an IL-6 blocker.
6/
There’s strong evidence for steroids in COVID as well as fairly strong evidence of Bari & Toci too.

See prior threads
Dex
Toci
Bari
7/
I think one big area of uncertainty is which drug to combine with steroids and in whom.
- Bari has the advantage of being a pill & slightly cheaper than Toci
- The effect size for Bari also appears to be larger: OR for mortality is in the 0.6 range compared to 0.8 for toci
8/
Importantly, while we can use different IL-6 receptor blockers (e.g. tocalizumab or sarilumab) we should NOT generalize using the class of JAK inhibitors:

Specifically, the WHO recommends using Baricitinib (Bari) but suggests NOT using Tofacitinib (Tofa) & Ruxolitinib (Rux).
9/
I agree with this. We should NOT view the different JAK inhibitors as fungible.
They have key differences in the kinome profile & different immune modulatory effects. While the data for Bari looks very good, the data for Tofacitinib & especially Ruxolitinib is less impressive
10/
More interesting is the WHO recommendation about inpatient use of monoclonal Abs.

Previously the best (and only) data for mAbs was in outpatients to prevent the composite outcome of death & hospitalization. In fact, the EUA for all approved mAbs only covers outpatient use.
11/
The change is driven by a large mortality reduction seen in RECOVERY.

This open label trial randomized n=9785 to REGEN-COV (casirivimab & imdevimab) vs usual care. They found a 6% reduction in mortality & 7% in IMV but ONLY in seronegative people.

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
12/
The 6% absolute mortality reduction is pretty impressive tbh.

I suspect the key was a higher dose of mAb (4g casirivimab + 4g imdevimab), given early (mean 7 days since sx, 1 day since admission) to high risk patients (those who are seronegative)

A couple questions linger
13/
Are seronegative people “non-responders” (unable to make IgG against spike protein) or are they just earlier in their illness? (Haven’t made IgG yet)

How does vaccine timing factor in?

How to operationalize rapid measurement of anti-spike IgG? (This is the most crucial one)
14/
Since mAbs are scarce, is it better to use them inpatient (to prevent IMV & mortality) or outpatient to prevent hospitalization (& potentially avert collapse of the health system)?
A tough health policy question.

Finally, does REGEN-COV even matter with omicron now dominant?
15/
As for the therapies that are NOT recommended, no surprises there.

16/
I’ve written extensively about how the data from in vitro, observational, & interventional trials doesn’t support the use of ivermectin in COVID.

Not even one (non fraudulent) RCT shows a mortality benefit.

EVERY high quality RCT has been negative.


17/
If you prefer watching video to reading text, here’s a grand rounds lecture I gave about debunking IVERMANIA.


18/
Bottom line: There are some areas of uncertainty (testing for seronegativity) & a few glaring omissions (fluvoxamine) but overall these are good guidelines based on solid evidence IMO. I’m curious to see if NIH changes their guidelines to align to this (RDV, REGEN-COV)
19/19

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Nick Mark MD

Nick Mark MD Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @nickmmark

Jan 17,
To those who are unvaccinated because of worries about “unproven mRNA technology” you know you can get:
- the J&J vaccine (🇺🇸)
- the Oxford-AZ vaccine (🇬🇧&🇪🇺)

Both can prevent hospitalization or death from COVID. Neither are mRNA vaccines. So why not get vaxxed today?
To those worried about blood clots after J&J, as of April 2021:
-there were 15 cases of TTS
-out of 8 million J&J doses

That’s a risk of less than 1 in 500,000. cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7…

The risk of getting struck by lightning is higher than that! cdc.gov/disasters/ligh…
The vaccine efficacy (VE) of the J&J vaccine *is* slightly less than the mRNA alternatives: 68-71% VE to prevent hospitalization (compared to ~90% for mRNA vaccines). That’s still much much better than being Unvaxxed.

(N.B. this is pre-omicron data)
cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7… Image
Read 5 tweets
Jan 15,
I was alone on an elevator today when I began hearing a voice.

It asked me if I “still support President Donald Trump’s ambitious agenda?”

I look around. No one here.

Hmm that’s weird
1/
Then the voice asked me if I’d like to “make a donation to support President Trump and the America first agenda he enacted?”

Pause

Umm no. This is an elevator.

Pause

The voice said “Aha.”

Then it continued “I’m sorry. Thank you bye bye.”

2/
So either:
A. I’m having a pro-Trump command auditory verbal hallucination or
B. His campaign robocalled the elevator’s emergency phone

3/
Read 7 tweets
Jan 7,
As someone who has dedicated a lot of time to studying and making #dataviz, let me explain why I dislike this NYT COVID graphic so much.

1/
It’s not that it’s a spiral - one of my favorite types of graphs is the Condegram spiral. (Named after Mark Conde)

It’s used in astronomy/meteorology to show changes the Earths magnetic fields (Kp index) & is used to visualize space weather.

2/
Another awesome spiral graph - and one of the best examples of #dataviz ever IMO - is the Rose plots by Florence Nightingale.

These 1858 plots show the causes of mortality in Crimean war & make a compelling case that for improving conditions (particularly shelter in winter).
3/
Read 11 tweets
Jan 5,
The risk of myocarditis in kids after mRNA vaccines is MUCH lower than was initially feared.

12-15 yo: 265 cases/18.7m doses = 1.4 cases/100k kids vaxxed
5-11 yo: 12 cases/8m doses = 0.12 cases/100k kids vaxxed

For context, the risk of getting struck by⚡️ is ~0.2/100k per year.
People asking about 16-17 yo males:

Yes we know that group has slightly higher (but still objectively low 7/100k) rates of myocarditis

The point is that rates of myocarditis are *even* lower in younger kids (5-15 yo) Hence ACIP’s recommendation that kids *should* get boosted.
As for the VSD data. In this dataset, among people aged 12-17yo, they reported 39 cases out of 1.1m vaccinations. Most were mild.

This is higher but still objectively very rare: 3.2/100k

Again, this safety data was used by ACIP to justify a stronger “SHOULD” recommendation
Read 5 tweets
Jan 4,
The US hits a million COVID cases in one day. Shit.
Hospitalizations also rising rapidly.

The key is that “milder” ≠ “mild”

A variant that is 2x infectious but 30% less virulent is still very bad & has potential to overload our hospitals.
Also important: most people in the hospital don’t have COVID but everyone’s care is harmed when we don’t have enough staff.

Some hospitals have >30% of acute care staff out sick.

Today is a bad day to need the cath lab or OR.
Read 4 tweets
Dec 27, 2021
Finally read the new @American_Heart AHA guidelines & they are absolute garbage.

Providers shouldn’t delay compressions or defib to put on PPE? Seriously?!? It takes like 10 seconds to put on an N95!

1/
Also were they afraid to actually *recommend* vaccination?

How about saying “vaccines substantially reduce the risk of DYING or getting SERIOUSLY ILL from COVID. All healthcare workers *should* be vaccinated”

Instead they went with a toothless “may reduce their risk” blah
2/
Others have pointed out the utter hypocrisy of people who are NEVER the first responders to a code writing this guideline. This is true.

Also, logistically, who do they think will respond to a code when a dozen RNs are home sick after being exposed at the last one?
3/
Read 5 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(