Some thoughts on the ongoing show/RF security council meeting: Shoigu now going off on the potential for Ukraine developing a nuclear weapons capability.
Now claiming Ukraine plans to retake the ORDLO by force.
Medvedev now being rolled out to denounce Kyiv's willingness to implement Minsk.
Medvedev: "we are facing the dilemma" about whether to recognize DNR/LNR. "I remember 2008 well" referring to Ab/SO recognition...
Medvedev: we know what the consequences of these decisions might be... it will be difficult, but we can get through it.
Medvedev: the west will come back to us after a while and ask to restore relations.
Medvedev: there are 800k Russian citizens living in ORDLO
medvedev: our only choice is to recognize these territories. [ugh]
Putin: "I didn't ask any of you in advance about this" [claiming this meeting isn't pre-scripted...]
Interesting :
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/1495771486501621762?s=20&t=f72zACyzodfLtXVJiOH59A
Matvienko rambling now... cringe-worthy stuff. "what did Russia ever do to Ukraine?"
Patrushev starting now.... "all the others will do what the US says" it only makes sense to talk to the US
Patrushev: they want to destroy Russia.
Patrushev: the US manufactured Maidan.
Patrushev: we should support the Duma's resolution on recognition.
Patrushev: we should accept Biden's summit invitation, in order to tell him that you [the US] caused all the problems in ORDLO, but if you fix it in 3-5 days, we'll be ok with that.
Mishustin really seems out of place
Naryshkin is showing off his gaslighting skills.
Putin to Naryshkin: give me a yes or a no!
Naryshkin: I support incorporating them into Russia.
Putin: we aren't talking about that!!
[maybe this really wasn't scripted. If so, it certainly wasn't scripted well]
[this is like a B-movie version of the usual Putin-runs-a-govt-meeting TV show. really bizarre.]
Lavrov invited back to the mic...
Lavrov running with the genocide talking point
Lavrov: I see no alternative [to recognition]. [quite a departure from MID's position as recently as yesterday]
Shoigu: "yes, we must recognize"
Bortnikov supports recognition to give the people of the Donbas a better future [no comment]
Putin: I heard your opinions. A decision will be taken today...
So: no announcement. Putin, as usual, dragging out the decision.
[colleagues point out that Bastrikin's intervention was cut -- it definitely was a taped show]
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