30 days head down tilt (HDT) caused 4 of 10 healthy participants to faint after standing up for 5 minutes. some interesting stuff going on...
Heart rate:
Those who did faint, had a much smaller increase in heart rate on standing, just 23 ± 5 bpm, compared to non-fainters 49 ± 10 bpm
This suggests high heart rate is protective of fainting (in these very peculiar conditions)
Blood pressure:
Diastolic blood pressure had a similar response for fainters & not fainters, but systolic blood pressure reduced by about 15 mmHg for fainters, with no such change for non-fainters
there was similar plasma volume reduction in both groups
study also looked at baroreflex responses:
plasma volume (PV) fell before baroreflex response changed during HDT
PV then stayed low but stable; baroreflex slopes declined progressively
PV restored within 1 day of ending HDT, but baroreflex remained depressed for at least 5 days
"although our data do not rule out a contribution from reduced blood volume (BV), they point away from reductions of BV as the sole cause of the baroreflex abnormalities that developed during bed rest"
laying down and sitting norepinephrine and epinephrine were similar pre- and post-HDT
all this suggests to me that plasma/blood volume is less of a contributor to orthostatic intolerance/hypotension than other factors. whether these findings translate to #POTS = ❓❓❓
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Cardiovascular Deconditioning (20 Hours Bedrest with -5° Head-Down Tilt (HDT)) in Middle-Aged Healthy Men sci-hub.se/10.1016/0002-9…
authors suggest during HDT MAIN cause of deconditioning is "an altered distribution of body fluids & intravascular pressures" & shift of fluid to head
this is potentially VERY important for #POTS: it suggests that our dysregulated body water regulation can be a primary source of deconditioning-like cardiovascular issues.
this means: fix the haemostasis problems to improve cardiovascular condition
this study was in a very different context to POTS so we can't read too much into it. HDT shifts fluid to the head which is the opposite to POTS. this does trigger a reduction in blood volume, reduction in oxygen consumption, low renin, tachycardia, etc tho, all similar to POTS
the autonomic nervous system has a branch that does not use acetylcholine or noradrenaline as transmitters. instead it uses other things, like nitric oxide, ATP, serotonin, neuropeptide-Y, etc link.springer.com/content/pdf/10…
Appetite gets dysregulated in #LongCovid and ME, often (not always) causing lower appetite. ME may be associated with higher neuropeptide Y pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21190576/