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#Putin's opening to this press conference suggests the takeover of southern #Syria by Asad/Iran is a model of U.S.-Russia cooperation that should be expanded, and flatters Trump that his summit with Kim [which Putin very much liked the look of] resolved the Korean Peninsula.
On #Ukraine, Putin hints broadly that the U.S. agrees with him that Kyiv's intransigence prevented Minsk's implementation, and then carefully lets it be known Trump brought up the election meddling, an assist to Trump politically, before of course dismissing it.
Trump frames engagement around U.S.-Russian co-operation in WW2, notes that unfortunate Cold War business, then says: "Our relationship has never been worse ... that changed as of about four hours ago." Says he is being politically brave to do what's right. Lambastes media + Dems
Trump says he will always put the American populace first, will pursue peace over politics. Says he raised the election meddling with Putin, who has "very strong feelings" and an "interesting idea" about it, apparently.
Trump claims securing relations with Russia will save hundreds of thousands of lives. Adds: "We have taken the first steps toward a brighter future."
Trump mentions the Nord Stream pipeline and having said it makes Germany dependent on Russia. Then turns to Putin and says he called him "a competitor and a good competitor he is. The word 'competitor' is a compliment."

So gross.
Asked if #Russia has any responsibility for the state of relations, Trump resorts to the moral equivalence we used to get from the Left: "I hold both countries responsible. I think the United States has been foolish. I think we have all been foolish. ... We're all to blame."
Putin piggybacks on Trump's we're-both-to-blame statement to claim that the U.S. intelligence engages in "illegal actions" in Russia and specifically attacks @Billbrowder for having acquired funds illegally (and then apparently channelled them to the Hillary campaign).
On #Syria, Trump says "President Putin is also helping #Israel ... We absolutely would like to work [together] to help Israel" (which is at best dubious) and that #Russia has "helped us with" #IS (which is flatly untrue). Adds as an afterthought that they can help Syria's people.
Putin, in response to Pompeo's statement (put to Putin by an RT journalist) that the ball was in #Russia's court over #Syria, hands a football to Trump and says, "Now the ball is in your court."
Trump, asked if he will condemn election meddling, says that the real question is where is the server. Putin denies, but it might be Russia, though "I don't see any reason why it would be [Russia] ... [and] I have confidence in both parties [U.S. intelligence and Putin]".

Unreal
Trump: "President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today, and what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the [Mueller] people ... come and work with [Russian] investigators with respect to the twelve [GRU] people [indicted on Friday]."
Putin denies the Concord company is anything to with "the Russian state" and then adds in an equivalence: it is like George Soros, who spends his billions trying to alter foreign governments but doesn't act for the United States.
Putin: if the U.S. submits evidence on the GRU officials, Moscow will look into extraditing them, but only if the U.S. begins reciprocal processes to hand over Russians wanted by the Kremlin. Putin then denounces using relations with Russia as "the loose change" of politics
Putin says Trump maintained a strong position against recognising the annexation of #Crimea, and denies that the Kremlin has any "kompromat" on Trump. Putin laughs off the idea he knew who Trump was in 2013 or collected such material on all attendees at the Economic Forum.
Trump concludes by saying any compromising material would have been released long ago, that Peter Strzok is a disgrace [which is fair enough, though of unclear relevance], and the Mueller probe is "a total witch hunt".
The only possible consolation from Trump's press conference with Putin is that it wasn't quite as bad as one might have expected. But it was sufficiently awful: a refusal to condemn Russian behaviour directly, moral equivalence with the US, abject confusion on Syria. A disaster.

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This is a completely anodyne statement of compassion and prudence - it is rather well attested that there is a contagious aspect to suicide. But the replies are absolutely unhinged from the "pro-Palestine" set. A truly suicidal movement, in every respect.
If Aaron Bushnell, the US airman who immolated himself, is to be taken seriously ideologically - rather than us mourning the suicide of a disturbed person - the results are not pretty.

He was a straight-out HAMAS supporter, thought Israel was the Nazis of our time
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Aaron Bushnell, the US airman who immolated himself, was very clear that he thought HAMAS kidnapping and slaughtering Israelis at the music festival of October 7 was justified. He thought all Israelis were settlers and made his Nazi allusion again, people having fun beside a camp


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#Israel's opening presentation before the ICJ show trial was very dignified and soberly done, not just by comparison with the raft of hysterical lies from the ANC's South Africa.
A point #Israel made at the ICJ that it should have made more of before now: "genocide" describes Oct. 7 and HAMAS' public political program. The Genocide Convention mandates action to prevent or to punish. So, why have others not joined the operation to eliminate HAMAS?
If the ANC's South Africa was so concerned about genocidal actors in former Mandate Palestine, it would have arrested HAMAS official Basem Naim in early December. Instead, Naim was feated and presented with a Mandela grandchild, who is an ANC MP, of course
apnews.com/article/hamas-…
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#Israel's strike in Beirut a short while ago killed Saleh al-Aruri, the overall deputy of #HAMAS. There are also reports in the Arab press that Osama Hamdan, the "official" HAMAS representative in #Lebanon, was killed, and it seems some "military wing" HAMAS officials, too.
Note the reports #Israel struck near a "Hizballah headquarters": this refers to the #IRGC's nerve centre for the whole Northern Middle East, the most important outpost of the Islamic Revolution outside Iran.
Whoever turns out to have been killed in #Israel's strike in Beirut, "HAMAS" leaders destroyed at a "Hizballah" headquarters should help put to rest the idea these are separate groups: it's all #Iran's IRGC, one region-wide Islamist network. meforum.org/62821/whither-…
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Henry Kissinger is dead at 100. His time in power abetted the onward march of Communism and brought the West to its lowest ebb at the end of the 1970s. We managed to halt and destroy the Soviet Union, but his empowerment of Red China is now the gravest threat to the Free World.
Kissinger's "opening" to Red China was the most grotesque sell-out: he gave Peking everything it wanted, over Taiwan, before the "negotiations" even began. Afterwards, of course, at Tiananmen Square and beyond, Kissinger was always there to defend the CCP. kyleorton.substack.com/p/nixon-kissin…
Kissinger's betrayal of South Vietnam is probably the most notorious of his disasters. It is not retrospective either: President Thieu knew what was happening in real time and said so. (An aside: Thieu, born within a month of Kissinger, died in 2001. Only the good die young.)
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Alireza Panahian, the spokesman for the office of #Iran's Supreme Leader, says that the Gaza war is part of the Iranian Revolution's attritional jihad against Western civilisation. Panahian says no level of Palestinian civilian casualties is too high for this project.
There has been an argument since 9/11 - sometimes made in good faith, sometimes not - that responding forcefully to Islamist terrorism only makes the problem worse. As against this essentially theological belief, we do get some data points, e.g.:
The "practical" argument for doing nothing in response to Islamist terrorism is also usually combined with a claim that responding is immoral because the victims deserved what happened - "American foreign policy", "Israeli occupation", etc.
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Israel is not going to live under threat of this being repeated, and it is difficult to imagine any other State would even be asked to.
There were some arrests at the "pro-Palestine" rallies yesterday. One assumes this guy will soon be picked up for glorifying terrorism. What you do with the whole crowd that agreed with him, though ...
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