Thread by @themultibeast

Can you trust her to run a family with you?

All young men must realize that even if all goes well, your woman will have someone approach her about 7 years into your marriage and say:

"Psst... how's your relationship going? Does he listen to you? Does he validate you?

Does he provide enough for you? Does he "connect with you" like you really need him to?

No? Well that's "abusive". You know that right?

I mean really, can do better?

How about this... I WILL PAY YOU to leave him.

Yeah. I will PAY you.

Every single month for the rest of your life

And if he doesn't pay, we'll send him to jail

Don't worry, you'll get to stay in the house, (he'll pay for it!)

You can still have the kids (if you want them)

Or, if you want some time to yourself...

you can take them just half the time

Imagine that! Time to yourself!

Sounds good right?

And socially, don't worry too much about it. Everyone's doing it. You won't be ostracized.

In fact, lots of your girlfriends will cheer you on!

Good for you girl!

You can even take a nice vacation and "get your groove back" with some young hot guy. You deserve it honey!

So what do you say? You wanna do it?

Life is short! The kids'll be fine.

This is "The call of the state" in secular western civilization, and it is POWERFUL

It speaks directly to her hypergamy and her victimhood, and timing is everything.

ALL Women will say that "NO WOMAN would listen to this if her man did/didn't do XYZ"

and they're RIGHT

It will ALWAYS be your fault

Even though she initiates divorce 70-80% of the time

She will never see this as anything but a legitimate option, in fact, often her ONLY option

And both her girlfriends and society will back her up in this belief

As a man you MUST anticipate this temptation in your relationship and select a woman who has a high likelihood of resisting this call

And never neglect your role as leader of the family

There are some MAJOR hacks that can limit this risk (i.e. empower her to resist the call):

For example religious women ALREADY believe that you are the leader of their family, that GOD wants them to stay with you, and often that her body belongs to YOU. This is huge cheat code.

They are also often part of a community that will level a social penalty to her if she leaves.

Another is a good relationship with her father

If she ALREADY has a negative experience with masculinity as authority, why would she NOT choose the state over a man?

Also previous poor sexual selection choices (abortions, high body count, "abusive" exes) etc. These are evidence of a struggle integrating masculinity into their lives, accepting its natural desire to lead, and "softening" to allow it to exist in its healthiest form

If you select well, lead well, be the best man you can be, never abdicate your responsibility to help orchestrate her emotional experience, and create a community that supports your marriage, she MIGHT not ever hear the call.

However most western, non-religious, semi-feminist women WILL hear this call, an they WILL consider it.

And if the cost of leaving is LOWER than the cost of staying, she WILL go. Kids be damned.

Unfortunately your commitment means nothing in and of itself