Can't wait to try! Queries was one of those features when I started Roam I said to myself "this is not possible with notes, but it is!" Never thought anything other than search, but queries show a promise of a new dimension possibilities. I like new toys. #roamcult unite!
Man I am excited about this. Great work Team @RoamResearch. Query like tools are fundamental if the notes we write today will still be useful in 30 years. People often think the key feature of a note-taking app is full-text search. But that is only (small) part of the equation.
As your corpus of knowledge/information/writing/research grows to massive-multi-year database you need more advanced tools to get to what your looking for.
Queries are so important to the future of Roam. Those with experience with query languages know that it takes a real investment to learn a query language, its unique syntax, capabilities, limitations and workarounds.
However once you know the syntax, you can slice and dice your data in many dimensions with just a few simple commands. Imagine every paragraph (block) and page (collection of blocks) being available through queries to select what you want back, sorted, aggregated (sum,avg, count)
Queries can serve as the basis for simply defining much more complex ways of viewing your data and then fed into other features: Lists, tables, kanban boards, charts, timelines and more.
I can see a time where our Roam queries behave like Excel pivot tables. Real-time analysis and summarization. Kind of wild when you think about that being combined with multiplayer mode.
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Coming to you Live from the Roam Hangouts with @cortexfutura Algorithm of Thought guru. Live tweeting his thoughts.
When @cortexfutura was asked about his background with note-taking software, he said “Been around the block” — no pun intended.
Demonstrating interfacing @zotero with Roam. I think this is a very popular concept for many researcher. He has designed a meta data export to make this happen. He will share his code. He has rolled his own solution to this problem.
In this video @rjnestor discusses crucial concepts that every @RoamResearch user should know: INDENTATION. This is one of the best videos I have seen in a long time. #roamcult@roamresearch
2/ I am very thankful he put this together. Indentation is a key facet & concept from the art of outlining, not to be confused with “outlining” as a summary of something, rather outlining as in a document with structure, resembling a tree: (Parent/child/siblings relationships).
3/ This is not new & there is a fine legacy of Outliners (software for tree structure type documents.) Example: @davewiner 1979 and VisiText. Learn more about outlining at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_(… Roam goes step further as it is a graph db (trees connecting to trees endlessly)
2/ Example one: Project Xanadu (Structuring data, bidirectional links) first hypertext project in 1960 by @TheTedNelson
+ nonsequential writing (writing with block refs, no folders)
+ zippered lists (Roam Multiplayer)
+ tumblers: any part of a file to be referenced (Block UID)
3/ Example two: (1960's, 70's) Graph databases (Roam under the hood)
+ Nodes (Blocks)
+ Edges (Bidirectional links/block refs)
+ Properties (Creation/edit dates, user, block characteristics: open, closed, heading)
1/ @Conaw thank you for giving Roam42 a try, its a work in progress.
I want to turn this around on you though & say we are really thankful to @RoamResearch for supporting community, giving us tools, encouragement & freedom to mod Roam. #roamcult
2/ I became a believer the day you announced roam/js. For those not in development, it probably wasn't clear what signal this sent. I have used many tools, but never seen a company so genuinely engage with public & make such an early commitment to devs (that wasn't lip service).
3/ I don't know everyone in the Roam Research team, but have enjoyed all my interactions so far with the few I have met: @thepericulum, @MamanLunettes, @filipematossilv. Always helpful & supportive, never judging. A testimony of good things to come.
This is a tweetstorm mostly for new users of Roam, but something I take to heart as an experienced Roam user (Experience in Roam? Not sure what that means, we are all Roam babies).
[[2/19]] Roam is a very powerful tool. Roam is feature rich & has MANY MANY hidden gems. Because of a lack of documentation & onboarding many users barely scratch the surface of Roam's potential. This will improve. Team RR has this on their radar.
[[3/19]] Roam requires time, practice & experience to master. There is a tendency at the start for the perfect system, to understand it all in depth before we really engage in using it. But this is not the right approach. With Roam, JUST START & use it as much as possible.