Coming to you Live from the Roam Hangouts with @cortexfutura Algorithm of Thought guru. Live tweeting his thoughts.
When @cortexfutura was asked about his background with note-taking software, he said “Been around the block” — no pun intended.
Demonstrating interfacing @zotero with Roam. I think this is a very popular concept for many researcher. He has designed a meta data export to make this happen. He will share his code. He has rolled his own solution to this problem.
He is using SmartBlocks to pull in quotes and creating links to Zotero. Another SmartBlock for AOT using a Work Cycle Review with Pomodoro. Simple way of guiding your work.
What is difference between an AOT & template?
+ Template is for repeating same structures, go in direction of algorithm, but not really since they don’t adapt
+ AOT - is a workflow, guiding thought. Has to adapt as you move through a process.
@cortexfutura uses a 30 minute work cycle with a 10 minute break to refresh the mind. In one hour can get in 6 “cycles” of work. Of course using Pomodoro in Roam. Very cool along with DNP and keeping your flow and log together.
I worry some are misled by phrases (SecondBrain, Algorithm of thought & now add SmartBlock) & that they imply the “machine” thinks for us. Tools don’t think, they can help us think better through the process of using them. @RobertHaisfield mentioned tagging a a tool that helps.
@cortexfutura talked about importance of adapting AOT for yourself. Take a recommended process and start testing. Find what circumstances where they work, don’t, adapt. You will build your own based on experienced when you intentionally work to apply them.
He has seen @RoamResearch is helping with that trial & error process. What it was that started it, results, and history to come back too. “If we don’t write it down, we have no artifact that helps us analyze if something is working or not”.
Benefits of tools for AOT is they help you remember the process (Roam), guide you through all the steps (SmartBlocks). Reduces friction: just remember to use it, let the tool guide you through it. Tool is not thinking for you, but helping you do the thinking you need.
@GeorgeSilverman spoke about the importance of AOT helping us with managing emotions, making a variety of decisions. But he poses the problem for managing the hundreds of AOT we will develop over time.
@cortexfutura regarding his personal benefits/disadvantages:
+ more awareness of his own thinking process, reflective space, rather than reactive approach
+ disadvantages: constantly thinking about your thinking can be a trap leading you away from actually doing.
Real life rewards? More confidence in the decisions he made, less second-guessing. Better directed in where to focus his energy.
@AbhayPrasanna Mr. Roam Encyclopedia demonstrating an AOT for dealing with judgment and frustration in our interactions with others. Learning to think through our emotions and having a log of such interactions to learn from the future.
@cortexfutura discusses that AOT helps us reduce friction in life. AOT allows you to transfer more energy to thinking about the thing you want to accomplish.
@RobertHaisfield asked does AOT stifle creativity? @thepericulum Good of AOT even with constraints breed creativity. They are not just a checklist, but provides options for thinking through an issue. @NormanChella says its quality questions & AOT designed for creativity.
@RobertHaisfield the contrarian’s contrarian refers to AOT a lens, how to look at a problem, but there is a risk of looking through too many lenses that overcomplicate and distract (possibly turning off creativity)
@cortexfutura doesn’t allow himself to take AOT to literally or rigidly. He knows he can break out of the algorithm when it stops working. This is difference between letting AI do the thinking for us, we know when the AOT has served its purpose, not about finishing a process.
@cortexfutura optimizing AOT - have versions of different length, so we can use them but adapt to circumstances. Also @tracyplaces reminds us in beginning to keep it simple, use one or two, develop the habit. (Kaizen)
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Can't wait to try! Queries was one of those features when I started Roam I said to myself "this is not possible with notes, but it is!" Never thought anything other than search, but queries show a promise of a new dimension possibilities. I like new toys. #roamcult unite!
Man I am excited about this. Great work Team @RoamResearch. Query like tools are fundamental if the notes we write today will still be useful in 30 years. People often think the key feature of a note-taking app is full-text search. But that is only (small) part of the equation.
As your corpus of knowledge/information/writing/research grows to massive-multi-year database you need more advanced tools to get to what your looking for.
In this video @rjnestor discusses crucial concepts that every @RoamResearch user should know: INDENTATION. This is one of the best videos I have seen in a long time. #roamcult@roamresearch
2/ I am very thankful he put this together. Indentation is a key facet & concept from the art of outlining, not to be confused with “outlining” as a summary of something, rather outlining as in a document with structure, resembling a tree: (Parent/child/siblings relationships).
3/ This is not new & there is a fine legacy of Outliners (software for tree structure type documents.) Example: @davewiner 1979 and VisiText. Learn more about outlining at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_(… Roam goes step further as it is a graph db (trees connecting to trees endlessly)
2/ Example one: Project Xanadu (Structuring data, bidirectional links) first hypertext project in 1960 by @TheTedNelson
+ nonsequential writing (writing with block refs, no folders)
+ zippered lists (Roam Multiplayer)
+ tumblers: any part of a file to be referenced (Block UID)
3/ Example two: (1960's, 70's) Graph databases (Roam under the hood)
+ Nodes (Blocks)
+ Edges (Bidirectional links/block refs)
+ Properties (Creation/edit dates, user, block characteristics: open, closed, heading)
1/ @Conaw thank you for giving Roam42 a try, its a work in progress.
I want to turn this around on you though & say we are really thankful to @RoamResearch for supporting community, giving us tools, encouragement & freedom to mod Roam. #roamcult
2/ I became a believer the day you announced roam/js. For those not in development, it probably wasn't clear what signal this sent. I have used many tools, but never seen a company so genuinely engage with public & make such an early commitment to devs (that wasn't lip service).
3/ I don't know everyone in the Roam Research team, but have enjoyed all my interactions so far with the few I have met: @thepericulum, @MamanLunettes, @filipematossilv. Always helpful & supportive, never judging. A testimony of good things to come.
This is a tweetstorm mostly for new users of Roam, but something I take to heart as an experienced Roam user (Experience in Roam? Not sure what that means, we are all Roam babies).
[[2/19]] Roam is a very powerful tool. Roam is feature rich & has MANY MANY hidden gems. Because of a lack of documentation & onboarding many users barely scratch the surface of Roam's potential. This will improve. Team RR has this on their radar.
[[3/19]] Roam requires time, practice & experience to master. There is a tendency at the start for the perfect system, to understand it all in depth before we really engage in using it. But this is not the right approach. With Roam, JUST START & use it as much as possible.