I think vaccines are a very important tool against pandemic but this is a good example of complex systems responding in very non anticipated way. Think that pole will not to late passport or more lockdowns. If those are your only strategies (even if correct, logic and scientific)
They won't work... We need to look for less rational/scientific alternatives that work sufficiently enough a la @rorysutherland.... A good correct idea may turn out to be a bad idea Infront of complexity.
The only right moment for panic (i.e. lockdowns ) is very early.
Let those who want to vaccinate do it but complement with masks and CO2 detectors as proxies of ventilation.
Think that optimal solutions have got unrealistic under the current context. Maybe the best we can do is not the optimal.
If that is true it is moment for clan/tribe
Local strategies: get O2 concentrators, O2 thank, organice to take care of ill, supply reservoirs etc
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- Que bonito pasto y que cuidados los juegos, cómo le hacen
- le ponemos candado al parque y solo pasan quienes vengan a mi casa a pedir la llave, me encuentren y pasen la aprobación.
Dónde los privilegiados que privatizan el espacio público no pueden poner sus candados la gente se ejercita, fortalece el tejido social y hace ciudad #coyoacan
For a while I was in a multilevel. The product was good but highly overpriced. I got in bc a friend I owed asked. But I did see some interesting tings... Oportunity to learn about selling and talking to pple; reading books otherwise never would have read; learn about BS
Everybody that enter with me I told it was more a selling course than a "business", no one lost a penny or they won money or I cover it.
It's ok to play anygame if you really know what you are doing and why as long as you don't hurt anybody.
That is what I don't like about BTC they are so pushy... They could play the game they like and that's it... Why they have this need to advocate soooo much.
#BillGates's #mosquito technological (naive) intervention, is a very bad idea, that I think emerges from the #Anthropocene framework. Thats why I has been pushing #Technocene instead, bc it tends to induce a more #precautionary approach:
As a matter of fact, humans have coevolved with mosquitoes (biologically, cultural and technologically).. see our paper:researchers.one/article/2019-0…
No, no tenemos la responsabilidad de hacer este mundo un lugar mejor. Ese pensamiento aunque loable choca de frente con la realidad de la complejidad del mundo, que es un sistema que no entendemos, no podemos predecir ni controlar.
Sistematicamente hemos llegado a muchas
catástrofes, injusticias, crisis.. caminando por el camino de las buenas intenciones.
Ls escalas importan... ese espíritu de solidaridad y responsabilidad es correcto pero esta aplicado en la escala equivocada.
Tenemos la responsabilidad de intentar ser las personas más decentes, honorables y útiles que podamos. Ese es el nivel de complejidad que podemos manejar.
A veces podemos entendernos a la familia, al clan, la tribu... mas allá de ahi hay creo yo una transición de escala
I think those calling complex systems fake and tear their clothes about invoking non-naive paranoic (anticipatory) measurements about #coranovirus bc it lacks, in their opinion, of scientific rigor... Do not really understand how science work. What they want is a Newtonian
Reduccionista approach, and that's ok if you want to publish papers. Wait until pandemics is over take the best epidemiological parameters, build a nice complicated model, test against observation and voila.
This kind of science is useless for real world desicion making under uncertainty. Let us consider a gun with unknown number of Chambers and bullets on them. If you don't play bc you are paranoic about getting your brains against the wall you loose some, also unknown, amout
@JurchisRazvan@paulportesi Stable regularities in those activities? Not at all, on the contrary a lot of heterogeneity.
Feedback, well you have different time scales feedback. Yes you have an immediate feedback but then you have longer...i.e. do you take a single rope or twin ropes for a climb?
@JurchisRazvan@paulportesi You may find what the repercussions of your choice will imply in hours or days after making it. But if you climb a lot you do develop the intuition if when one option is better that the other. I think the real important think for develop intuition in that the activity force or
In my perspective this activities tend to require that because you have: incomplete information in the input parameters, uncertainty about payoffs, limited time, limited resources ... And ofcourse feedback.. real consecuences.