Gestern wurden in Dänemark die letzten Corona-Beschränkungen aufgehoben und das war für uns Anlass eine Folge @pandemiapodcast zum “Ende der Pandemie” aufzunehmen:
Was heißt eigentlich “Ende”? Was passiert in Dänemark jetzt? Und wie steht Deutschland da?
viertausendhertz.de/pan29/
Die Masken wurden in Dänemark schon im vergangenen Monat abgelegt. Nun ist auch kein Impfnachweis mehr nötig für Konzerte und andere Großveranstaltungen. Das Leben ist weitgehend so wie vor Corona. Dänemark markiert damit den Übergang von der Pandemie in die Endemie.
Die Dänen sagen nicht, dass das Virus keine Rolle mehr spielt. Sie sagen, dass es nicht mehr eine so große Gefahr für die Gesellschaft birgt, dass es mit außergewöhnlichen Maßnahmen bekämpft werden muss.
Oder, wie @LoneSimonsen2 sagt: “Wir haben dem Virus die Zähne gezogen.”
Wie hat Dänemark das gemacht? Impfen, impfen und impfen. In Dänemark sind über 96% der Über-60-jährigen geimpft. Durch diesen breiten Immunschutz, so das Kalkül, wird ein Virus, das sonst das Gesundheitssystem zusammenbrechen lassen könnte, zu einer beherrschbaren Gefahr.
Aber warum haben die Dänen es geschafft, so viele Menschen zu impfen? @M_B_Petersen sagt ein entscheidender Grund sei die Motivation: In Dänemark hätten sich Menschen trotz Bedenken impfen lassen, weil es als Dienst an der Gesellschaft gesehen wurde, als “moralisches Projekt”
Es gibt natürlich zahlreiche andere Gründe (der frühe Verzicht auf AstraZeneca zB hat das Vertrauen in die Gesundheitsbehörden letztlich gestärkt), aber dieser Punkt der auf die Gemeinschaft ausgerichteten Motivation taucht immer wieder auf in jedem Gespräch.
Natürlich ist der dänische Schritt jetzt ein Experiment mit offenem Ausgang. Gut möglich, dass die Zahlen von Intensivpatienten trotz allem wieder so stark steigen, dass Maßnahmen erneut eingeführt werden. Und was ist mit Long Covid? Was mit den umgeimpften Kindern?
Aber der Grund, dass Dänemark jetzt das Experiment wagen kann, ist die hohe Impfquote. Länder mit einer niedrigeren Impfquote als Dänemark bei den Risikogruppen, sollten das Land nicht kopieren, sagt Lone Simonsen.
In Deutschland sind laut RKI 83% der Über-60-Jährigen voll geimpft. 83% und 96% mag nicht nach einem riesigen Unterschied klingen.
Aber es geht ja um die Ungeimpften: Also 17% vs. 4%.
Kurz: Deutschland hat vier Mal so viele Menschen mit hohem Risiko, die nicht geimpft sind.

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@PeterDaszak @nycbat First of all:
Yes, that is a really big number. And yes there is HUGE uncertainty in that.
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Since this question comes up quite a bit:
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„They will be less common stars/constellations, easy to pronounce“, @mvankerkhove wrote me. „We are just checking internally with our regional colleagues to ensure none of them cause any offence or are common names in local languages.“
We will see what ends up on the list (examples in the first tweet were just from me to illustrate it). Probably best not to call a variant „sirius“ variant since that might lead to some misunderstandings ;)
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