Thread by @Aal_Moalim

So they want to hide behind a report from Hanbal b. Ishaq from Ahmad.

Ok let’s play their game and hide behind Hanbal b. Ishaq from Ahmad:

1.

قال حنبل : سمعت أبا عبد الله  يقول :

قال الله لموسى { إنني معكما أسمع وأرى } حكاية الله عن نفسه أنه يسمع ويبصر , ولا تكن رؤية إلا ببصر , كما وصف نفسه يسمع ويرى
هذا القرآن , فمن رد هذا فقد رد على الله أمره وقوله , وأنكر التنزيل

“I heard Ahmad say: Allah said to Moses: “I am with you I hear and I see” Allah here tells about Himself that He sees and hears. And seeing cannot be done except with sight, as Allah described Himself as Hearing and Seeing.”

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قال حنبل : سمعت أبا عبد الله يقول :
حدثت يحيى بن سعيد , حديث عبد الله : [ إن الله تبارك وتعالى يضع السموات على إصبع ]
قال : فجعل يحيى يحكي هذا , فيقول بإصبعه هكذا , حتى أتى على آخرها
وأرانا كيف يضع يحيى الخنصر , ثم التي تليها , إصبع إصبع , حتى عقد لنا حنبل ثلاثين .

Ahmad relays here how Yahya b. Sa’eed would move his finger when relaying this report and Ahmad would show Hanbal how Yahya placed his little finger then the next finger and so on until Hanbal counted 30 movements

But hey تفويض المعنى

3.

قال حنبل : سمعت أبا عبد الله يقول : من زعم أن الله لم يكلم موسى فهو كافر بالله , وكذب بالقرآن , ورد على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أمره
يستتاب من هذه المقالة , فإن تاب وإلا ضربت عنقه

Ahmad said:

Whoever says Allah did not speak to Musa then he is a Kafir who has denied the Qur’an and rejected upon the Prophet ﷺ his command. He must be forced to make Tawbah and if he fails to make Tawbah then he is to be beheaded

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قال حنبل : سمعت أبا عبد الله يقول :
يضحك الله عزوجل , ولا نعرف كيف ذلك , إلا بتصديق الرسول وتثبيت القرآن

Ahmad said:

“Allah laughs but we don’t know how that is [ie how He laughs] except by believing the Prophet and affirming the Qur’an”

5.

قال حنبل : قلت لأبي عبد الله : يكلم الله عبده يوم القيامة ؟
قال : نعم

Ahmad was asked will Allah speak to His slaves on the day of Judgement?

To which he replied yes and that Allah will speak to His slaves and question them

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قال حنبل : قلت لأبي عبد الله : المشبهة ما يقولون ؟
قال : بصر كبصري , ويد كيدي , وقدم كقدمي , فقد شبه الله بخلقه , وهذا كلام سوء

Ahmad was asked to define the Mushabihhah

He said the Mushabbih is the one who says:

A seeing like my seeing and a hand like my hand and a foot like my foot. The one who says is the Mushabbih and this is evil speech.

What do we learn from these reports of Hanbal from Ahmad:

• Affirmation of the Sifat
• Using Aahaad Hadith as evidence
• Using his finger to make Tahqeeq of the Sifah
• Takfir of those who say different

You can find this & more here:

altameme1.blogspot.com/2016/12/blog-p…