1/ Wow!

Interesting study about HDL-raising & LDL-lowering medications, CETP & PCSK9 inhibitors, w 1 finding that caught me off guard

Will reveal later in thread 2encourage ppl 2read in context, bc study revealed both good and bad

#CVD #Alzheimers

nature.com/articles/s4146…
2/ Study used Mendelian randomization 2assess possible effects of SPECIFIC pharmacological CETP or PCSK9 lowering on risk

Useful for assessing whether the failures of CETP inhibitors are more likely due to off-target or on-target effects and for directing future development...
3/ Some positive things:
👉MR analysis suggests CEPT inhibition could be useful4reducing coronary hard disease risk (OR=0.95) risk & thus further drug development may be warranted

👉CEPTi anacetrapib&evacetrapib most closely
reflected the on-target association of lower CETP...
4/ 👉PCSK9 lowering in MR reduces CHD risk. The odds ratio is lower (OR 0.69, Fig 3) suggesting a stronger effect. This isn't anything new but supporting the conventional viewpoint that ApoB lowering with PCSK9 can reduce CHD risk. But what caught me off guard ...
5/ But what caught me off guard was the finding that lower PCSK9 was associated with much higher #Alzheimers risk (OR = 2.43). This was one of the strongest associations observed in the study. (see for yourself below)

AND what’s more…
6/ And I’ll here paraphrase the authors (so that I get myself in less trouble):

“The MVMR model… [indicated that]… the Alzheimer effect of PCSK9 was likely mediated by [lowering] LDL-C Figure 6).”
7/ Certainly, this does not indicate PCSK9 inhibitors should not be prescribed, nor that PCSK9 inhibitor-mediated lowering of LDL in an individual patient will increase risk of dementia. I also want to acknowledge out that I routinely point out I think MR studies have limitations
8/ with respect to what one can really conclude about causality in a real-world setting, since the exposure is due to genetics rather than a metabolic response (analogy would be high LDL in #LMHR vs. FH)

Nevertheless, I find it shocking...
9/ that the association between PSCK9 lowering and increase Alzheimer’s was so strong and that the MVMR pointed the finger at lowering LDL-C. IMHO...
10/ this does have implications for individual patient care, e.g. if someone is considering LDL lowering options and have a strong family history of #alzheimersdisease and/or #ApoE4 genetics

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24 Dec
1/ Time for another monster thread aimed at adding a bit of nuance to Twitter. This one is about Lean Mass Hyper-Responders, HDL, and it's topic might surprise you: Is ⬆️HDL-C in #LMHR bad? Read on to have thoughts provoked...
2/ Something I have intentionally yet to point out (but plan to include in upcoming writings) regards the potential adverse effects of high HDL-C in #LMHR? What?! High HDL is bad? Well, based on the epidemiology, yes. Multiple studies...
3/ including Copenhagen City Heart and CANHEART, report a U-shaped mortality curve whereby very low or very high HDL levels are associated with increased mortality. The most striking example is the blue line, which is all-cause mortality in CANHEART.
Read 12 tweets
23 Dec
1/ It's been quite a week on Twitter regarding #lowcarb and LDL

I have been on the fence about weighing in, not wanting to add to the dog pile, but decided 2drop my thoughts in this thread

If u don't have time to READ THE WHOLE THING IN CONEXT, ignore& consider me🪰 on the wall
2/ I'll first address @deirdre_tobias analysis of LDL and all cause mortality. With the caveats that I'm not an epidemiologist &hope to have more insightful questions when time passes and the dust settles, I am not in disagreement w/ the main results: high LDL associated with ACM
3/ That's actually old news, isn't it?Not so say that the analysis doesn't bring something to the table, but on a population level v high LDL levels (will get to low LDL in a minute) are generally undesirable. Thus, all things being =, a conservative gambler would pick low-is LDL
Read 24 tweets
21 Dec
1/ Interesting study comparing the metabolic effects of #fasting: lean vs. obese ppl

👉Lean have greater ⬆️ in Lipid Oxidation (+214% in lean vs. + 76% in obese at 48 hrs)

👉Resting energy expenditure ⬇️ in obese only

👉Skeletal muscle AMPK ⬇️ in lean
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23512807/
2/ Points 1 and 2 go in line with what I'd expect. Leaner metabolically healthy people probably have greater metabolic flexibility, resulting in better shift to fat burning. But point 3 about AMPK surprised me. Here's why...
3/AMPK is the cellular energy sensor. It's activated, in part by low energy status, i.e.

Decrease cellular energy supply increases AMPK activity

Seems paradoxical that in lean persons who r fasting AMPK activity goes DOWN, not UP, as if there is more energy when taking none in
Read 6 tweets
21 Nov
1/ As a #LMHR and close colleague of @DaveKeto I feel compelled to jump in here and clarify my own stance on LDLp and ASCVD risk because I feel that our positions are usually misrepresented by others. Here we go…
2/ To cut to the chase, outside the low-carb lipid triad of high LDL and High HDL and low TG, I would absolutely personally consider elevated LDLp an issue. Where I to have high LDL and atherogenic dyslipidemia I would both take an LDL lowering med and, more importantly IMO…
3/ change my lifestyle to improve the atherogenic dyslipedmia. Personally I do have concerns about longterm safety use of statins specifically and would preference Zetia/PCSK9i. But that’s besides the point. I won’t speak for @DaveKeto but for my part the LMHR phenomenon & LEM…
Read 8 tweets
22 Oct
Friday Poll Part 1! - Macros

For those who are low-carb, what way of eating has provided you the best health results overall?

Note 1: If more than one applies, choose the most "restrictive" option that applies

Note 2: Poll does not account for TRE

Cr @hormonedietdoc
Friday Poll Part 2! - Food source

For those who are low-carb, what way of eating has provided you the best health results overall?
Friday Poll Part 3! - Meal timing

For those who are low-carb, what way of eating has provided you the best health results overall?
Read 5 tweets
12 Oct
Thread about Twitter culture re #LCHF
1/I put up a thread yesterday about a graph depicting obesity rates over time as relates to the DGA that ended up precipitating some interesting discussions with esteemed experts.After several attempts at clarifications, I removed the tweet
2/ I removed the tweet, but it was an interesting moment upon which I wanted to reflect. I re-read it before deleting it though and, while it could have been better, when I compared to some of the replies there was a mismatch in content, at least IMO. But
3/ But is that the reader’s fault, or my own for not anticipating that my tweet would be read through a particular filter?I think it’s an unfortunate reality,but a reality nonetheless, that when one has a decent following they should realize that their tweets r going to be read
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