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Feb 23, 2022 14 tweets 6 min read Read on X
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Sentiment check across markets. P/BV vs 10y averages. Assuming companies will perform neither better or worse fundamentally than they've shown historically, and shareholders will pay what they have on average have paid for those companies. Starting with #SPX500
#SPX500 would need to come down to slightly above 3100 to reach its 10y average.
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..And will in that case drag MSCI World with it (60% US). 23% down to average.
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#EmergingMarkets has apx 11% down to average valuations.
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#Sweden, still my home, ca 5% down to average valuations. Note also the slope of the standard deviations, indicating good historical growth.
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#Vietnam, ca 30% of #Frontiermarkets index (MSCI) ca 20% down to average valuations. One of few enthusiastic markets. Only due to locals. Massive foreign selling over the last year.
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#Pakistan, sorry guys but you are completely and utterly abandoned. If history gets it right ca 50% upside just to reach average. Also note the good slope, indicating strong book value growth historically.
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#Bangladesh ca 12% down to average. Not complete 10y history.
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#SriLanka went from being the cheapest to reach average valuations in a massive run. Right now on average 10y valuations (and a lot of short-term headache).
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#Egypt need to rise 25% to reach average 10y valuations.
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#Indonesia has about 16% upside to reach average valuations. Good slope as well.
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#Philippines also has some catching up to do. 21% upside to 10y average.
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Would be the first to agree that an index valuation might not be representable to what you own as an investor. But it gauges the temperature of a market decently well. If valuations are low, you are more likely to find good companies at good valuations.
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If the temperature is very high - What stocks do you own? Can you fundamentally vouch for good returns ahead, or are you (like the market) a bit tipsy right now?

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Jul 24, 2022
Had the honor to participate in a panel on #SriLanka. Was asked about comparisons to #Pakistan. Will they too default on their commercial debt?

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1) Going into 2022 Sri Lanka's foreign public debt to GDP was 40-45%, vs Pakistan's 20-25% (interval as no final GDP number)
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More importantly the commercial share of #SriLanka's FX debt (the part that is owned by bond investors in London and NY) was 22-25% of GDP, vs #Pakistan's 5-6%. Both had ca USD 18bn in commercial debt, but #Pakistan is a significantly larger economy.
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#SriLanka's government refused IMF negotiations when covid hit (and USD 4bn of tourism revenue was no longer an option). Instead introduced capital controls, hoping that tourism would recover in time for them to make their debt payments. They ran FX reserves down to zero (0)
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Jan 22, 2022
P/BV vs history is one of the better methods of measuring sentiment. For those concerned by the recent rout in S&P500, this chart might be helpful. To translate - There is another 32% down to neutral (not bearish) levels.
#SPX500
on the opposite side you have #Pakistan. To reach 10y average the market needs to rise 50%.
Valuation gaps rarely close overnight. No point in predicting car crashes. If US book values rise 10% a year over the next 5 years and S&P500 returns 3% a year (like 2001-2011) the gap will be closed in 2027. Does not have to be a drama, just likely underperformance for some time
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Jan 20, 2022
Sometimes love Twitter. A much better way to visualize.
Now waiting for the comments why "This time it is different" 😉
These comments tend to highlight current state or fears of what is to come (normally macro in both cases), both of which are in the price.
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Jun 25, 2021
1/X - So #Pakistan is under review for "downgrade" to Frontier index. Personally I think it would be a good move. At 2bps of MSCI EM it will continue to be ignored. A few observations on MSCI Frontier Index and its use:
#EmergingMarkets #FrontierMarkets
2/X - There is a structural flaw in the algorithm deciding country weights. As opposed to MSCI EM where 50% free float is required, in FM index a mere 7,5% free-float is required. Not a brilliant idea as it gives a higher weight to "zombie markets" with zero liquidity.
3/X - It is ridiculous that #Bangladesh with >150 musd a day has 1/3 of the weight of #Kenya with 6 musd.
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