Seeing a lot about how NPIs and policies haven't influenced recent waves of SARS2 infections and it's all down to the new uncontrollable variant that we're powerless to stop...
Sound familiar? It rhymes with malfa...
Promise not to mention endemicity 🤪, but this needs a 🧵
First, a couple of caveats...
1. I'm not in any way a card carrying epidemiologist.
2. See 1.

BUT, whilst I may have slight mathematical issues, I do understand the basics...

So, why can't we control cases of BA2 whilst BA1 is on the way down? Taking the second point, some
have said that BA1 going down means that we were completely justified relaxing all restrictions, that we're probably all immune, and that the fact that even on the way down prevalence eclipses 2021 doesn't matter...
Yes, it's tempting to say this, but association≠causation
Now, I'm not going to show loads of graphs, but it's important to understand why peaks become peaks, or plateaus, or whatever...
On a simple level (my personal favourite), the exponential rise of an infection happens cos the virus is VERY good at spreading, and there are a LOT of
people to infect...we would term these folks/virus factories "susceptibles"...
So, what makes a person susceptible? Well, mainly, it comes down to immunity, resilience (age, other conditions, medicines, etc) and behaviour that affects exposure...as I'm considering infections,
I'll leave the second part...for now.

So, at the start of the pandemic, we were all without immunity, but that's obviously changed because of vaccines. However, it's important to distinguish between immunity vs infection, rather than severe disease, although one does follow the
other, as you might expect...
Anyway, back to peaks...so, whilst susceptibles aren't limiting, SARS2 or any other virus, will spread, its inherent transmissibility being the only limitation on how many become infected. This is the R value from the briefings, and standing alone it
is called R0. But, as things get bad, NPIs kick in, as does behaviour, and this acts to reduce our susceptibility, so R0 becomes Rt, which is the base reproductive value when susceptibles are limiting...
So, ultimately virus spread becomes inherently limited, but this WOULD also
happen if nothing changed as susceptibility isn't uniform either. Highly susceptible populations exhibit behaviour or other factors that make them so, but once the virus burns through these, Rt gets lower than R0, and eventually drops below 1...the peak is reached, decline begins
Some have indeed argued for doing nothing whilst hiding vulnerable people in a box somewhere...problem is that this maximal peak is potentially HUGE, and the lagged severity follows...
Some say that suppression of peaks merely delays rather than prevents infections, which is,
frankly, bollox. All medicine is about delaying illness and death!
We saw this impact of behaviour in July after freedom day (part 1), at Xmas, reducing Rt. But, similarly, EOTHO, July 21, and now, represent increased Rt...weirdly, cases grow...
But we're seeing plateaus and now ANOTHER peak...why?
Well, the answer is because multiple factors can reduce Rt, e.g increasing antibodies, masks, behaviour, environmental controls etc...and they're not there anymore.

However, mitigations, behaviour, all just chip away at Rt
, which is why you need lots of them to bring infections down, and these work together with vaccines.
The problem is that antibodies wane, as does protection from severe disease, and behaviour changes, influenced by policy. As such, susceptibility is dynamic, changing over time.
Now, it gets more fun because the "pool" of susceptibles is different for different viruses. This can be due to transmissibility (⬆️ inherent R0), antibody evasive spike (⬆️ Rt).

So, each time a variant arrives, we see rapid growth as it tears into the highly susceptible folks,
this will eventually start to slow and so you peak, then come down...
Remember, the pool of susceptibles can be reduced by behaviour, boosters etc, BUT, it can also be replenished by waning, exposing new populations, dropping measures etc.
If you get to a point where this balances Rt of the virus, you see an undulating plateau of cases. If, tho, a
New kid arrives on the block, peak 2 grows while peak 1 is declining. This can look like a plateau for a while, but our excellent surveillance means we get warnings of newly introduced strains becoming dominant. We can't afford to lose this, e.g. #ONS 🙏👍👏
Here's the lowdown IRL from @chrischirp , see yesterday's @IndependentSage for a live online breakdown with more details than I have here...

So, back to my point...
The dynamics involved with peaks etc are complex, but anything that increases susceptibles combined with an increased/altered Rt is a bad idea...
We're seeing an extreme example currently, total lack of protections, testing dwindling, and BA2...thankfully
many people continue to behave responsibly and altruistically, but it's not enough.
So, as we've seen before, it's both the nature AND the timing of policies, combined with incumbent viruses, that lead to surges. You cannot say whether changes were a good/bad idea until this
combination of circumstances occurs...
But, we're told this is how things have to be as we live with/ignore COVID. Sure enough, vaccines have reduced the lethality of the virus, so does this matter?
Well, unsurprisingly, yes it does!
First, the link between infection and severity
is weaker, but not broken, and severe disease has it's own pool of susceptibles, which again is dynamic. We are genetically diverse, so don't always make optimal vax responses, we haven’t vaxd enough, incl kids, and the reduced incidence of severe disease is counterbalanced by
there being huge numbers of (re)infections as new variants emerge.
You basically have a similar process going on as for cases, but the scales are smaller. Then, as well, we have the dreadful #LongCovid and #LongCovidKids which continues to build into a vast public health issue.
BA1/2 may be more of a submachine gun than a sniper rifle, but if you're losing your body armour then every bullet counts...

So, when CAN we relax protections? Well, timing is critical, as is flexibility in terms of reintroducing them. Act too late, more severe measures are
required to regain control, relax too soon and you lose what you gain from previous actions. Either way, the combo of extreme freedom with THE most antibody evasive, transmissible variant just can't be sensible, right? Focused protection doesn't work, people aren't free. Yet...
OK, I know I said I wouldn't mention it, but FYI, when these processes are in equilibrium over time, THIS is endemicity...🤪
It does not mean benign.

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I hope @jburnmurdoch doesn't mind a QT, but re his article on SARS vs 'flu IFR - imo, a good thread as per, but some folks insist on just reading headlines...

My take? Well, the comparison has issues, many that John covers, but my main thought is:

Just look at what vaccines might achieve if they were part of a supported, multi-layered approach, rather than being left to tackle COVID alone...
First, let's deal with the comparisons. John rightly mentions multiple caveats such as the fact that seasonal flu waves last just a few months, and that, critically, at present SARS2 prevalence is VERY high (and going up), yet flu is
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Well...this is nice. Apparently, it's just been deaths as usual this winter, obv this whole pandemic thing actually only affects other countries...

BBC News - Covid isolation laws set to end in England
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-604469…
Now, obviously our vaccines mean that many of us are no longer in anywhere near the danger from SARS2 that we once were, but when I see people dismiss it as a cold I really worry for some people's grip on reality...
For starters, the delta/omicron waves with all these cases that
apparently don't matter, have led to over 23k deaths just since the farcical short sighted "freedom day" in July.
That's about 20-25% of the D614G/alpha wave in 2020/21, which was effectively pre-vaccine.
It may not be such a scary "peak", but area under the curve HT @chrischirp
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Jan 17
I had one of my overly-long, verbose threads half-written on this, but the more I thought about it, I figured it was just worth emphasising a few things, all of which - weirdly - began with P...
1. Patience. We're all sick of this 4 waves in, same

bbc.co.uk/news/health-59…
chances missed, same late (in)action. It's clear that SARS-CoV2 WILL become endemic eventually, but not yet. It's too well adapted to humans to burn out, elimination is challenging. The best we can hope for is a VERY low endemic set point...but we're not there yet.
Endemicity is
a state that means things are predictable because the number of people susceptible to infection balances the inherent transmissibility of the virus. So, three things enter a sort of equilibrium - immunity, environment, and viral evolution.
We are still VERY much in a dynamic
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This is wrong in so many ways.
Disease is a function of virus, host, and environment. Yes, omicron has some differences to Delta etc., but it's our vaccines, with an unpredictable element of prior infection that's changing, but not breaking the relationship between incidence
and severity.
Nonetheless, to use flu as a platitude is also unwise. The reference here is seasonal strains to which we have an element of cross protection in the community, but against which we also vaccinate.
SARS-CoV2 remains a recent zoonotic event against which we are racing
to build immunity as a population, speeded along by vaccination. It may become endemic, ie predictable, in the future, but that does not mean benign, and could take many years. Pandemic flu is also devastating, we would have no prior immunity again, but SARS2 also has differences
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Righto, just going to throw this out there but take none of the credit as the person behind this would rather avoid any ensuing debate...

In brief, there's huge debate around Omicron being "mild'. This is misleading as, whilst populations may be better equipped immunologically
to stave off severe disease, this is not generally due to reduced virulence per se...the virus would be just as nasty in a naive cohort.

So, obviously most of the information we have comes from South Africa. This is important because omicron is doubling so fast there literally
hasn't been enough time for severe disease to develop in any but the very first amongst those infected in the UK. We're used to the lags and thankfully different trajectories of severe disease and deaths now due to the high vaccine efficiency vs alpha and Delta, less so for the
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Dec 6, 2021
Right, have to get some things off my chest...
All entirely my p.o.v, lots of reading but no citations. Happy to be proven wrong, but I've done my own research...🤪
1. Of course the pandemic isn't over and wasn't a few weeks ago either...utter fuc*nuts who said so. Honestly...🤦‍♂️
2. Somewhat related to 1. No, it is NOT ENDEMIC YET, in the UK or anywhere else. I mean, if nothing else, our new friend Omicron is the equivalent of this to that argument...(couldn't find a gif with the big one, would you believe?!)
...but in all seriousness, we have nowhere near enough stability in terms of our population level immunity to outpace SARS2 evolution, prevalence is ridiculous, and this is having the predicted outcome in terms of severe disease, death AND long COVID, across all ages 😪
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