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Association is not necessarily a causation
RCTs are thought of as "gold standard" for a good reason.
"Randomisation" eliminates influences of confounders.
- allows "causality" inference.
@AriErcole RCTs require relatively little prior knowledge.
But
"DO WE HAVE ASSURANCE OF THIS" ?
we try to "by having a inclusion criteria"
🧐 we can only control what we know
RCTs have limitations - dont really imply causality absolutely.
🗒 Structural Causal Models
- multiple regression models
can make these DAGs arbitrarily complex (many regressions = structural equation modelling)
see pic
Example of DAG
📃 What about "Natural Experiments"
- in a big enough data set, there will be a "digital twin"
- creates a natural experiment if we hav enough data
- can use to address confounding by indication
e.g., Propensity score matching(PSM) and Inverse probability of Treatment Weighting
What do those mean - and here
📃How about "time-series" causality?
- given t-s e.g., HR
- all physiology fluctuates
- causality based on "information flow between signals as it has "DIRECTIONALITY"
-eg fluctuation has meaning
- signal complexity outperforms anything either as early predictors of sick or not.
Example of this.
📃What about "reinforcement learning"?
give computer "policies" and see what is the "best policy". a bit like "propensity score matching"
- ML model
mentions @matkomorowski paper
What about “individualised treatment effects” using @MihaelaVDS clairvoyance models
@MihaelaVDS Summary
- statistical techniques nor RCTs prove causality
- "natural experiments" are another way of assessing causality
- "big data" allows sophisticated processes #datascience#ai#ml#icudata#LIVES2022
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Mariangela PELLEGRINI
Uppsala- Sweden
"Do we Need a biological definition of ARDS"
- Berlin definition has NO Diffuse alveolar damage .
- the Berlin defn does not capture well
Frohlich - different definitions specificity of 0.63, 0.42, 0.31 even! #ventilation#ards#LIVES2022
ARDS - new definition or phenotypes by @GicoBellani refreshing with Kigali definition of ARDS - useful not just low resource but during pandemic in supposedly high income settings and only draw back is no PEEp requirement #ards#ventilation#LIVES2022@ESICM
@GicoBellani@ESICM Resolved versus confirmed ARDS
- prospectively applying Berlin definition did work but if ya wait 24 hrs and re-measure P/F ratio, you end up stratifying much better.
- Better separation of groups
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Alain COMBES
Severe cardiogenic shock has different phenotypes 1. medical cardiogenic shock(AMI, end stage dilated CM, myocarditis, septic shock) 2. Post cardiotomy refractory CS (post CABG) #LIVES2022 @ESICM#ecmo#resuscitation#ALS
@ESICM 2022 what do the guidelines say
- ESC recommends short term MCS should be considred in cardiogenic shock.
IABP may be considered but not routinely recommended in post MI #LIVES2022