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Jan 24 25 tweets 15 min read
READ THIS 🧵 AND I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO TRY AND DEFEND THE ACTIONS AND CONDUCT OF THE SEC.
“The same reasoning applies to digital assets. The digital asset itself is simply code. But the way it is sold – as part of an investment; to non-users; by promoters to develop the enterprise – can be, and, in that context, most often is, a security.”

- Bill Hinman, 06/14/2018
Notice that the asset is more a security if it is “sold as part of an investment - to non-users - by promoters.”

Clearly, #LBC users w/in the @LBRYcom Blockchain who didn’t purchase the tokens from LBRY or its executives DO NOT FIT with what Hinman articulated.
Thousands of #XRPHolders acquired #XRP to establish a TrustLine w/the #XRPLedger to transfer value; thousands got paid their salaries in #XRP through BitPay and other vendors; thousands utilize #XRP as a substitute for fiat; thousands of vendors accept payment in #XRP (eg Time).
According to the SEC’s 2019 Framework for Digital Assets, a crypto is unlikely to satisfy Howey if:

“it can immediately be used to make payments in a wide variety of contexts, or acts as a substitute for real (or fiat) currency.”

In sum, in 2019 the SEC described #XRP to a T
Now also consider that FIVE YEARS EARLIER, in 2014 the @USGAO described ##XRP as a “virtual currency utilized in a decentralized payment system called @Ripple.”

Also consider, in 2015, FinCEN & the DOJ settled w/Ripple classifying #XRP as convertible virtual currency.”
Consider that the 2015
settlement forced Ripple to comply w/Banking laws not securities laws and forced Ripple to hire an independent 3rd party auditor APPROVED BY
FINCEN & DOJ to provide the Government w/
annual audits of all XRP sales for 5 YEARS and this info was shared w/SEC.
Also consider that two
years before the 2015
FinCEN settlement, in
2013, @chrislarsensf
CEO of Ripple, gave a
- presentation to
@USTreasury, @CFTC,
@federalreserve AND
THE @SECGov wherein
he demonstrated the
utility of #XRP.
Also consider that in
addition to the 2015
FinCEN declaration that #XRP was a convertible
virtual currency the
@CFTC stated that virtual currencies similar to #Bitcoin are properly
classified as
commodities.
Also Consider that in
2019 the FSOC annual
report signed by the most important financial leaders in the United States 🇺🇸
highlighted the
following virtual
currencies only
- as growing in market share: #BTC , #ETH, #XRP, and #LTC.
Consider also in January 2019 the SEC was informed by @coinbase and @brian_armstrong
that even if #XRP was a security early on (like #ETH) - today's #XRP is NOT a security and
unless the SEC objected or determined otherwise,
Coinbase was listing
#XRP and did list it in
Feb. 2019.
Now consider 6 months after Coinbase met with
the SEC about listing -
#XRP, @MoneyGram filed a disclosure with the SEC informing the SEC that Ripple was going to be transferring #XRP to
MoneyGram who would then utilize #XRP in its cross border payments
business.
Also Consider that the
SEC knew that
MoneyGram was selling #XRP on exchanges like
Coinbase to the general public AND THE SEC DID
NOTHING.

Consider SEC
enforcement lawyers
wrote a 2018 memo 📝 analyzing XRP and did NOT conclude it was a security.
Consider that SEC staff were allowed to own/trade XRP until Apr. 2019. The info above (and there is
much more) is part of the public record. On this info alone - even if you hate Ripple - you realize how screwed up and all over the place the SEC's
approach to crypto has been.
What I've discussed
above is public. It doesn’t take into consideration
the non-public
information. Now wait
until we see the Hinman emails and drafts of the speech. According to
@bgarlinghouse and
@s_alderoty when we
read it, it will shock us. 👇
Back to LBRY and #LBC. The SEC concedes that
the majority of #LBC
token holders are USERS - the very thing Hinman said that didn't apply to
securities laws. Yet, the SEC refuses to
distinguish those users and exempt them from the application of those
securities laws.
The January 30 LBRY
hearing is one of the most important events in crypto. Btw, When the transcript of the
November 21, 2022 LBRY hearing is made public, the on the record statements made by @jeremykauffman to the Judge need to be sent to every Senator and Congressman.
BELOW
IS A PERFECT
SUMMARY OF THE
CURRENT REGULATORY
STATUS IN THE UNITED STATES 🇺🇸 FOR ENTREPRENEURS
INVOLVED IN
BLOCKCHAIN
TECHNOLOGIES.

At the November 21,
2022 hearing - AFTER the SEC won the case
@jeremykauffman pled with the Court and here is a summary of what he said:
@LBRYcom has been
going back and forth with the SEC for five years. Throughout that entire period, we have begged them, we've said, we will do anything, make any
changes like there are
other currencies like
Ethereum and bitcoin
that have this non-
securities designation.
@jeremykauffman
explained how he offered years ago, to destroy the entire premine. He said
he offered years ago.
he would fold the entire company an give every dollar in the bank accounts. He said: All we've ever wanted was to
achieve the same legal
status of #BTC and
#ETH.
He said:

I just want to know what the
rules are. Tens of thousands of other companies just
want to know the rules. It's okay if we lose. What I would like to come out of this is at least some
knowledge of what the
rules are.
He also said:

There are so many smart people who want to be building and working in
this field. Everyone in my company, whether we work at LBRY or not, wants to keep doing this work. And I thought for sure that by the end of
this we would at least
know what the rules are.
He expressed to the
judge that still to this day no one does. After all these years no one knows the rules on how to build a tecnnology w/a token
and comply w/U.S.
securities laws.

@jeremykauffman said: I honestly don't care about arguing the penalties. I mean, the SEC has won.
He then said:

LBRY is almost certainly dead. The SEC's objective of bankrupting us through the process,
which they threatened
privately three years ago, they succeeded.
Also in the hearing,
@jeremykauffman went on to plead for clarity for the users of the platform
and for clarity regarding secondary market transactions.

We have a hearing on
January 30 on the matter.
@jeremykauffman
@naomibrockwell and
#ICAN deserve credit for fighting back.

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Jan 22
THE UNITED STATES 🇺🇸 IS BEING LEFT BEHIND. FULL STOP! 🛑

CRYPTO REGULATION IS NOT COMING!
I’ve seen some very smart people say things like:

“When we get regulation soon….”

I hate to be a Debbie Downer about politics in the U.S., but I don’t see sensible Crypto regulation being passed into law anytime soon.
I believe the 1st or 2nd Quarter of 2025 is likely the earliest it could get done and I may be being overly optimistic with that time estimate.

The market will continue to receive guidance only through judicial results from the SEC’s Regulation by Enforcement policy.
Read 11 tweets
Jan 20
Here is how the Judge could give Ripple an outright win. People are focusing on the pre-1933 Blue Sky argument. That argument is for the 2nd Circuit and Supreme Court. I don’t believe Judge Torres agrees with that argument although the current Supreme Court could.
I’m not saying it will happen. I’m just addressing Jay’s concerns or thoughts.

The judge could absolutely get around Ripple’s sales of #XRP b/c the SEC didn’t go transaction by transaction applying the Howey test to each transaction. Instead it went w/ what I wrote in my brief. ImageImage
Essentially the SEC is applying the old “But For” causation test in this case. The SEC essentially argues but for Ripple executives (Jed, Chris) creating XRP, XRP wouldn’t exist. But for Ripple helping create a secondary market for XRP, a secondary market wouldn’t exist.
Read 12 tweets
Jan 16
Common enterprise is a real problem for the SEC in this case. And #XRPHolders, as amici curie, have contributed a lot on the issue.
Remember, initially the SEC argued that @Ripple was the common enterprise. Two things then happened: 1) Ripple forced the SEC to admit owning #XRP gives #XRPHolders ZERO rights or interest in Ripple and Ripple owes #XRPHolders absolutely nothing; and
2) #XRPHolders became amici a year and half BEFORE anyone else filed an amicus request and we submitted 3K affidavits stating that the majority of first time purchasers of #XRP were unaware of the company Ripple, thousands acquired #XRP for non-investment reasons,
Read 13 tweets
Jan 1
2023 SEC 🆚 Ripple 🧵

Will the case settle?

After 18K votes, the👇 poll shows 59% of people believe a settlement will happen.

Tbh, 59% is higher than I would’ve guessed.

A year ago, I believed a settlement was likely b/c the SEC wouldn’t want the Hinman emails made public.
It was my opinion, that if the emails were extremely valuable to Ripple AND extremely damaging to the SEC, the SEC would settle BEFORE turning over the emails, drafts and comments.

That didn’t happen.

Instead, Ripple has now cited the Hinman emails in its opposition Briefs.
Although the SEC asked the Judge to seal the documents, if the judge considers the Hinman speech emails in her decision in any regard, the emails and documents become “judicial documents” and the Judge will order the documents to be filed on the public docket w/a few redactions.
Read 25 tweets
Dec 28, 2022
The January 30th hearing regarding @LBRYcom’s Motion to Limit the SEC’s Remedies is arguably the most important crypto hearing to date.

The SEC is seeking disgorgement from a non-party but also read the SEC’s proposed language for the permanent injunction. 👇
The proposed language could theoretically allow the SEC to reach into the secondary market and prevent transactions from people who are only users of the platform who never acquired #LBC for investment reasons.
For example, the SEC could NEVER satisfy the Howey test as it applies to @naomibrockwell’s use of #LBC. The SEC stipulated that there are many #LBC holders who only use LBC for the platform, never considering it an investment yet the SEC refuses to issue a no-action letter. 🤔
Read 11 tweets
Dec 27, 2022
Are you paying attention?

Goldman @GaryGensler will sue an exchange(s) claiming most of the tokens are unregistered securities and the crypto market will crash further. Incumbent players will get to buy in and get a larger share. Maybe JPM or GS gets a piece of @coinbase. 🤷‍♂️
Fidelity, with $10T AUM, files trademark applications for an #NFT marketplace and #crypto trading services. HSBC files a trademark for a virtual currency exchange.

@cvpayne and I discussed this on his show Making Money. Listen to what @GaryGensler said at @MIT about incumbents.
Listen to what @TimDraper said to Goldman Gary in 2018: 👇

I’ve been saying for a year that this was the plan. Once the market is at the bottom and the incumbents get a bigger piece, Gary and the SEC will come to the table and workout some form of guidelines or clarity.
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